Pascal seems to be a little better than Taylor though. But I don't know. If a 100% determined Hopkins shows up, this could be either a close fight like Hopkins-Taylor 1 & 2 or Hopkins may play dirty and win a UD. But I just don't see either of them dominating eachother. Only fighter who dominated Hopkins was a young Roy Jones but Pascal doesn't have half the defense Roy Jones had. He can get caught a lot, he's careless sometimes and lunges in a lot.
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I see Hopkins vs Pascal ending like Taylor-Hopkins
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taylor was a hell of a counter puncher and boxer
pascal is more aggressive and will give bhop more openings and i dont see him landing much on the executioner
i can't make a proper predicteion tho, im too lazy to watch their last couple of fights
all in all yea, this might end like hop-taylor as in it's close, and most fights with bhop do end up close when he's fighting younger guys simply because he is outworked
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Pascal is also faster and hits harder than Taylor, Hopkins is 5 years older and apart from looking good against a one dimensional Pavlik, he hasn't shown much.. he couldn't even damage a gun shy RJJ.
I can see Pascal getting a UD like in the Dawson fight, Pascal took all of Frochs shots, I think he can take B-Hops worst.
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Originally posted by Disposable Arts View PostPascal is also faster and hits harder than Taylor, Hopkins is 5 years older and apart from looking good against a one dimensional Pavlik, he hasn't shown much.. he couldn't even damage a gun shy RJJ.
I can see Pascal getting a UD like in the Dawson fight, Pascal took all of Frochs shots, I think he can take B-Hops worst.
Hopkins is defensive fighter, who pot shots and likes to counter and uses rough house tactics. He's not slick though.
Dawson is a slick fighter with fast hands, good footwork, and decent power. Dawson is not defensive at all. Let's not confuse slickness with defense. Hopkins is not slick, he's defensive. Dawson is not defensive, he's slick. Only one active fighter has both of those and that's Floyd Mayweather.
I think Hopkins defensive style and dirty tactics will make this fight interesting.
Oh yeah and let's not underrate Taylor's power either. Let's not forget Pascal couldn't drop Froch and Taylor is still the only fighter to have dropped and hurt Froch as bad as he did. Let's not forget that Taylor has been the only fighter to drop and hurt Pavlik as bad as he did. Pavlik will never ever in his life get hurt that bad not even in 168, that says a lot about Taylor's power. Maybe Abrham has a chance to hurt Froch badly, but he doesn't, Taylor's power should get a little more respect.
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Originally posted by JonnyBlayze View Posttaylor was a hell of a counter puncher and boxer
pascal is more aggressive and will give bhop more openings and i dont see him landing much on the executioner
i can't make a proper predicteion tho, im too lazy to watch their last couple of fights
all in all yea, this might end like hop-taylor as in it's close, and most fights with bhop do end up close when he's fighting younger guys simply because he is outworked
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Pascal fades late (Who doesn't? But his is a little more severe). Even though I believe this, I still picked him to beat Dawson.
I would agree with your assessment, in that Hopkins has his best chances late, provided he can handle the early pace of Pascal. But if Hopkins doesn't try to rough things up, doesn't try to stalk Pascal, then he is playing into Pascal's hands. I believe Pascal can be broken late.
I'm picking Pascal to win though.
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Originally posted by sigrab jr View PostWhen Dawson threw, he landed. He outlanded Pascal 114 vs 134 and just threw 6 more punches[430 vs 436] and people say Dawson was no busy enough but look at the identical numbers. Problem is Dawson landed most of too late in the fight. But we all know how accurate Hopkins is with his sneaky right hand and good counterpunching.
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Originally posted by Disposable Arts View PostPascal is also faster and hits harder than Taylor, Hopkins is 5 years older and apart from looking good against a one dimensional Pavlik, he hasn't shown much.. he couldn't even damage a gun shy RJJ.
I can see Pascal getting a UD like in the Dawson fight, Pascal took all of Frochs shots, I think he can take B-Hops worst.
you are right on one part, hopkins didn't look good against a "SHY" RJJ, roy didn't want to engage in any trading and was avoiding FIGHTING Hopkins making it a lackluster fight, not until hopkins responded to the back of the head hit.
i think hopkins wanted the pascal fight is because he is like a roy jones in emulating RJJ's style, only pascal is willing to engage and stand and fight with hopkins, which is what hopkins as a fighter was looking for in the RJJ rematch so he can have a chance at countering him at every chance, and i think that is what he is looking to do in this fight with pascal.
i can see hopkins winning this fight, i can see him take pascal out of his game and break his confidence with a properly executed game plan from hopkins.
and as a hopkins fan, i hope he doesn't try and milk any kind of points taking away favoritism from the ref, with milking the low blows or rabbit punches, etc, it makes him look like he can't handle being in the ring, at least from the casual fan or the haters perspective, having been a hopkins fan and following his career, in those instances i didn't see a tired or hurt hopkins, i saw a hopkins trying to play the ref like a soccer player rolling on the ground holding his shin trying to get the ref to call foul, that is what i see with hopkins doing that mess. so i hope he realizes that he wont get a fair shake in canada so he might as well just get that part of his game plan out of his head and focus on stopping pascal, because in reality, that is his only chance unless we see hopkins school pascal like he did pavlik........
hopkins by late round tko.........Last edited by deuce_drop; 11-23-2010, 03:06 PM.
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Originally posted by sigrab jr View PostPascal seems to be a little better than Taylor though. But I don't know. If a 100% determined Hopkins shows up, this could be either a close fight like Hopkins-Taylor 1 & 2 or Hopkins may play dirty and win a UD. But I just don't see either of them dominating eachother. Only fighter who dominated Hopkins was a young Roy Jones but Pascal doesn't have half the defense Roy Jones had. He can get caught a lot, he's careless sometimes and lunges in a lot.
old man hopkins will try to use the slick african american style, but it will not impress the canadian judges or the canadian fight fans.
the fight won't go like hopkins/taylor at all. it will look like hopkins/rjj II. hopkins will move and move and do very little. when hopkins gets hit in the back of the head or on the belt, he'll fall down and act like he got really hurt. then he'll come back and flurry for a little bit, then go back to running, er I mean the slick innercity black style.
bhop needs to KO pascal to win in canada. that means bhop is gonna have to catch pascal jumping in.
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