If Pac and Floyd don't fight, the only way Floyd surpasses Pac is w/ a MW Title.

[cleaner147]

I agree but highly doubly.

in may or June the fight could happen. those month will do high ppv numbers.

[IMDAZED]

2501 just said beating Williams or Martinez won't cut it.

Well that's his opinion. He's entitled to it. Currently, I think Manny is ahead of Floyd by a decent margin. But Floyd did beat the consensus and linear champ at 147 this year and dominated. That sorta stopped his string of not-too-impressive matchups. If he can beat one of those guys (Williams or Sergio) and maintain a pristine record...wow. Just imagine what these boards would be like if he did that.

[2501]

2501 just said beating Williams or Martinez won't cut it.

154, @ 160, different story. Trying reading.

[sigrab jr]

Floyd can have Richard Schafer pick out some top 20 guy and have him maneuvered to #1 for some vacant title and then have Floyd beat him, forget Martinez or Williams. Brilliant!

I don't know why Floyd doesn't do what Pacquiao does. Just fight bums for major titles at catchweights or at weight limit but they must be bums. Andy Lee at 160, make him come down to 156 and Floyd can weigh in whatever he wants. Hell even Peter Manfredo Jr. Just weight drain them to make history. Then he can fight for a 168 title but come in weighing 158, make the fighter come down to 164. Vacant SMW title, there you have another easy title. Mayweather vs Miranda at a catchweight of 164, for a vacant SMW title would be nice. Miranda would outweigh Floyd by a lot of pounds on fight night so people will give him credit for the win no matter how crap is Miranda.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Wait did TS say beating Martinez won't mean he surpasses Pac? but isn't martinez MW champ

[The Gambler1981]

Well that's his opinion. He's entitled to it. Currently, I think Manny is ahead of Floyd by a decent margin. But Floyd did beat the consensus and linear champ at 147 this year and dominated. That sorta stopped his string of not-too-impressive matchups. If he can beat one of those guys (Williams or Sergio) and maintain a pristine record...wow. Just imagine what these boards would be like if he did that.

I don't see how Floyd lost ground this year in the greatness debate to be quite honest.

All the **** that is getting said now is pretty much how it should have been right after the Cotto fight.

This year Floyd has got the best win of the two so really if he gets the best win of the two for the next couple years that is all he really needs to do to close ground.

I still don't see them as that different career wise.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

154, @ 160, different story. Trying reading.

Why at 160? they could fight at say 155 for the MW title?

[IMDAZED]

I don't know why Floyd doesn't do what Pacquiao does. Just fight bums for major titles at catchweights or at weight limit but they must be bums. Andy Lee at 160, make him come down to 156 and Floyd can weigh in whatever he wants. Hell even Peter Manfredo Jr. Just weight drain them to make history. Then he can fight for a 168 title but come in weighing 158, make the fighter come down to 164. Vacant SMW title, there you have another easy title. Mayweather vs Miranda at a catchweight of 164, for a vacant SMW title would be nice. Miranda would outweigh Floyd by a lot of pounds on fight night so people will give him credit for the win no matter how crap is Miranda.

I'm dying over here. I'd disagree if I didn't see muthphukkas drooling over someone winning a catchweight, vacant title between two non-contenders. But hey, everyone should do it! Look what it brings you.

[2501]

Are you idiots really this illiterate?

BEATING MARTINEZ OR WILLIAMS AT 154 WOULD NOT CUT IT. BEATING THEM AT 160 WOULD.

Is that easy to understand?

[IMDAZED]

I don't see how Floyd lost ground this year in the greatness debate to be quite honest.

All the **** that is getting said no is pretty much how it should have been right after the Cotto fight.

This year Floyd has got the best win of the two so really if he gets the best win of the two for the next couple years that is all he really needs to do to close ground.

I still don't see them as that different career wise.

I like the Cotto win for Manny as his best win since the Marquez bout. The Hatton was decent, the manner in which he did it was...spectacular. I think Floyd lost some ground during his retirement and Manny has surpassed him since. But the Mosley win was big and one more big win for Floyd - especially against a Martinez or Williams - could be enormous. I mean, enormous.