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    #31
    Cunningham talks a bunch of smack. It is funny though that Khan waits till both Bradley and Alexander are locked into a fight before opening up about them.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
      He barley even talked trash. He was asked a question about them and said he would beat them basically.
      He said that Maidana is a much better fighter than either Bradley or Alexander and that Khan and Maidana are the #1 and #2 in the division.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
        He said that Maidana is a much better fighter than either Bradley or Alexander and that Khan and Maidana are the #1 and #2 in the division.
        So? I mean i dont agree that Maidana is that good but is that trash talk?

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          #34
          Originally posted by mathed View Post
          Cunningham talks a bunch of smack. It is funny though that Khan waits till both Bradley and Alexander are locked into a fight before opening up about them.
          What? Do you not remember the whole "Twitter Battle" between Bradley and Khan?

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            #35
            reebok likes to sponsor runners........ouch *****s!....lol

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              #36
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
              What? Do you not remember the whole "Twitter Battle" between Bradley and Khan?
              Yea but when Shaw said lets do it the talk went dead..Sorry bro but Khan at that time did not want any of Timmy B,maybe that will change but GBP did respond to Shaw at all and this was before the Devon fight was signed..

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                #37
                Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                It was certainly a close fight, and was not a robbery. Many thought Kotelnik deserved the nod, but no one who knows boxing thought it wasn't very close. And quite a few respected boxing analysts, including The Ring, scored it narrowly to Alexander.

                Kotelnik landed more overall punches but Alexander landed far more power punches, as is borne out by the punch stats.

                In any case, Alexander was clearly below par, and judging him on that fight is no more meaningful than judging Williams on the first Quintana fight. All boxers have a bad night occasionally.
                Alexander was hitting gloves and air all night. He BARELY landed any clean punches.

                Kotelnik controlled the fight, he was the elusive aggressor from start to finish, he landed more punches and was landing the harder, cleaner, more accurate, more effective punches.

                I scored it 118-110 for Kotelnik.

                It was by far the worst robbery of the year. One of the worst robberies I have ever seen.

                Read this excellent article:

                Russ Anber: Winning in America against American fighters is difficult

                As I started to write this blog about the upcoming WBC world light-heavyweight title fight between world champion Jean Pascal and undefeated contender "Bad" Chad Dawson, the Don King promoted "Gateway to Greatness" card was about to begin live on HBO.

                Headlining the attractive card was undefeated IBF and WBC light-welterweight champion Devon Alexander putting his title on the line against former champion and the 2000 Olympic silver medalist, Andriy Kotelnick.

                Alexander was coming off an impressive eight round stoppage of durable war horse, Juan Urango, while Kotelnik was looking to erase the memory of his one-sided loss to Amir Khan in their meeting one year ago.

                This was a good looking card, but in my mind it would still receive second billing to the Pascal-Dawson preview, which I was about to start writing.

                All that would change, however, when three American judges; Jerry Roth, Oren Shellenberger and Denny Nelson who were either myopic, incompetent or just plain corrupt, offered up three identical scores of 116-112 in favour of the defending champion Devon Alexander. Add to that the even more ridiculous scorecard of HBO's "unofficial scorekeeper" Harold Lederman, and you have what might be one the most blatantly biased decisions rendered in an American ring in recent memory.

                Before we go any further, I would like to start off by giving Devon Alexander an A+ for effort, as he showed a lot of heart in trying to turn around a fight which began slipping away as early as the second round. More importantly, however, I have to give Kotelnik credit for a masterful, surgical performance as he dominated Alexander with clean hard punches and pin point accuracy.

                While it is true that Alexander was often the busier of the two, Kotelnik was clearly the aggressor and definitely the more accurate puncher. Alexander missed the target so often he looked like he was shadow boxing for the better part of the 12 rounds against the elusive Kotelnik. With hands held high, Kotelnik constantly stalked the fleet-footed Alexander and made him pay dearly every time Alexander missed. The Kotelnik right hand was a thing of beauty, and the fluidity of his punches were truly something to behold.

                While there are many things which have changed in the sport over the last 10-15 years, perhaps the biggest change has been the emergence of world class fighters from the former Soviet bloc and other countries, who in the past never quite figured into the pro boxing landscape. Much like the heavyweight division, America is quickly losing the stranglehold it once held on the sport. While still a power, it is evident that more and more world champions are being reared in places on the planet other than the U.S. or Latin countries, and this is not making U.S. television very happy.

                In the end of what was a brilliant contest, a new champion should have been crowned Saturday night in St. Louis. Instead, the sport of boxing now sports another black eye. Three judges, who should know better, rendered a decision which by all circumstances can be construed as nothing but bias and pro-American.

                Is it merely a coincidence that such a horrific decision, robbing Andriy Kotelnik of a world title, comes at a time when negotiations are ongoing between Devon Alexander and Timothy Bradley for a showdown in January on HBO?

                Please, don't ever let me hear another American media member, promoter, boxer, manager, trainer or anyone else for that matter EVER criticize again, how impossible it is for an American to win on Canadian or European soil. On Saturday night, three American judges proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that winning in America against an American fighter, especially one who has a TV contract, is becoming increasingly more difficult. Ask Kotelinik, or for that matter, ask Simon Brown!

                Oh, Simon Brown! Please don't get me started again!!!!
                Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 10-28-2010, 10:40 PM.

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                  #38
                  Kotelnik is the REAL WBC/IBF Light Welterweight Champion of the world.

                  Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 10-28-2010, 10:39 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    So? I mean i dont agree that Maidana is that good but is that trash talk?
                    Saying that he and Maidana should both be ranked above the concensus #1 and #2 fighters in the division is certainly arrogant and disrespectful, especially given their resumes. The Khan/Maidana winner will have a resume comparable with that of Bradley and Alexander, but at present neither of them has. And it's also a fact that GBP didn't want to let Khan near either Bradley or Alexander before now, whereas both were keen on fighting Khan.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-28-2010, 11:24 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
                      Read this excellent article:

                      Russ Anber: Winning in America against American fighters is difficult
                      One of the most biased articles I've ever read in my life. The fact is that almost no serious boxing writers agreed with him or you. And as well as claiming that the judges and HBO are corrupt, he and you are presumably also accusing Compubox and The Ring of being equally corrupt. Which, if so, is just ridiculous.

                      That said, I do think Kotelnik deserved a rematch, and it's a pity King priced him out of a fight with Ortiz, which would have got him right back into the title picture.
                      Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-29-2010, 12:19 AM.

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