Miguel Cotto why oh why didn't you just...

[mariobrotherpr]

The NSAC head commissioner said there was a Cotto member in Marg locker room.

What more investigation do you want?

What else could of happened?

If it were the other way around Top rank would of done the same thing.

Fact is there is no proof at all that Marg used against Cotto. And, how are you going to be able to even find that proof?

Top rank has done absolute right by Cotto. Absolutely, even though Cotto is/was willing to fight everybody. Maybe, just maybe isn't the fighter that we thought he was.

And, I guarantee you that if Cotto would have been with GBP instead of top rank, he would not had the success that he had in his career.

There was also an official when he had loaded gloves. It took Richardson to spot 'em.

It took Richardson to spot Tito's handwraps, and Papa Trinidad said afterwards that's the way he has ALWAYS wrapped his hand.

Saying that because there was an official, the gloves were not loaded, is typical "appeal to authority" fallacy.


And I already said what investigation do I want.

NSAC interviews both Margo and Capetillo. Top Rank/Cotto sues both Margo and Capetillo in civil court.

Maybe you haven't heard Margarito say that he would not have felt if his gloves were loaded in prior fights. I have.

All that the Margo defense team did is show the commission that Margo had NO INTENTION of loading his gloves to avoid a criminal investigation, where intention is necesary for conviction. They never argued that there was no plaster. Someone MUST have had an intention.

Top Rank didn't push the authorities to start a criminal investigation either. THey acted like the intention came from God himself and plaster just "appeared magically" on his gloves.

[RL_GMA]

I don't think it really makes a difference. If he had signed with GBP after the fight with Clottey, realistically, who could he have fought? He wasn't going to fight Mayweather being he had just fought in Sept and even skipping further, would Oscar have stepped over Mosley to give Cotto the fight with Mayweather? Likely not.

If you look at the landscape of the division, there was really no one out there that Arum himself couldn't put him in there with. The thing about promoters I think people get lost in translation with is they're not holding these fighters' hands like they're children, nor are they supposed to. All the promoters job is to give you the opportunity to fight big names and put money in your pocket, which clearly Arum's done both. I don't think Arum is an Angel by any means, but GBP aren't Saints in comparison. Cotto IMO would've be just as relevant with both promotions.

[Bushbaby]

The NSAC head commissioner said there was a Cotto member in Marg locker room.

What more investigation do you want?

What else could of happened?

If it were the other way around Top rank would of done the same thing.

Fact is there is no proof at all that Marg used against Cotto. And, how are you going to be able to even find that proof?

Top rank has done absolute right by Cotto. Absolutely, even though Cotto is/was willing to fight everybody. Maybe, just maybe isn't the fighter that we thought he was.

And, I guarantee you that if Cotto would have been with GBP instead of top rank, he would not had the success that he had in his career.

U are right about 1 thing & that's there is no way to find out after the fight has past if Margarito cheated vs Cotto!!But Margarito did try to load his gloves vs Mosley,top rank went out of their way to defend Margarito & traveled across states to get him a fight with Pacman!!A man that was caught loading his gloves shouldn't be fighting the pfp king for a vacant title,no less at a catchweight,period!!

[Pin Galarga]

What don't U agree with??

Both Mayweather and Cotto have benefited of their great timing and there's a reason why Floyd ducked him for years.
You might be right, but its not an open and close case so I didn't agree with that part all the way.
What I do agree is that Bob hasn't been looking after Miguel's best interest for a long time now and the only reason why He got Cotto the Pacman fight was to make sure He didn't cross the street to sign with Oscar.

But even then, He was still looking after Pacquiao pushing the draining cathweight, which at the end served together with the damage goods for his purpose, His double dipping and making Pacquiao a even bigger star.

Cotto's contract is up and I hope He will walk away from the old marica.

[Ryannn]

Both Mayweather and Cotto have benefited of their great timing and there's a reason why Floyd ducked him for years.
You might be right, but its not an open and close case so I didn't agree with that part all the way.
What I do agree is that Bob hasn't been looking after Miguel's best interest for a long time now and the only reason why He got Cotto the Pacman fight was to make sure He didn't cross the street to sign with Oscar.

But even then, He was still looking after Pacquiao pushing the draining cathweight, which at the end served together with the damage goods for his purpose, His double dipping and making Pacquiao a even bigger star.

Cotto's contract is up and I hope He will walk away from the old marica.

the weight was a NONE FACTOR in that fight.

cotto looked pretty good in that fight. was competitive the first few rounds, was hurt, and decided to back pedal.

and he looked pretty good his last fight too...

[jrosales13]

There was also an official when he had loaded gloves. It took Richardson to spot 'em.

It took Richardson to spot Tito's handwraps, and Papa Trinidad said afterwards that's the way he has ALWAYS wrapped his hand.

Saying that because there was an official, the gloves were not loaded, is typical "appeal to authority" fallacy.


And I already said what investigation do I want.

NSAC interviews both Margo and Capetillo. Top Rank/Cotto sues both Margo and Capetillo in civil court.

Maybe you haven't heard Margarito say that he would not have felt if his gloves were loaded in prior fights. I have.

All that the Margo defense team did is show the commission that Margo had NO INTENTION of loading his gloves to avoid a criminal investigation, where intention is necesary for conviction. They never argued that there was no plaster. Someone MUST have had an intention.

Top Rank didn't push the authorities to start a criminal investigation either. THey acted like the intention came from God himself and plaster just "appeared magically" on his gloves.

You obviously didn't understand what I said and maybe you should read it again.

First of all lets go with Tito. His wraps were illegal in NY but legal in other states and countries. So Papa Trinidad wrapping his hands in other states and countries where it was legal is not cheating now is it?

Now I didn't say anything about a member of the commission being in the locker rook. I said a member of team Cotto being in Marg locker room. But, yes there was also a member of the commission.

Also, NSAC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CSAC.

Again why should NSAC or top rank investigate something where there is no proof of cheating? Don't be ridiculous.

You can only investigate what happened in California because there is the only place there is proof of.

Everything else is just crying and not being able to get over a lost.

Top rank has done absolute right by Cotto. GTFOH with the rest of the BS.

[Ravishing]

Is it part of the business to have ur promoter go out of his way to get a man that was caught red handed a fight with the most popular pfp king at a catchweight when California denied him a liscense??Cotto needs to leave,regardless of whatever else!!

Cotto fought the #1 P4P fighter in the world following a lack luster performance against Clottey. Sounds like a generous promoter to me. Arum didn't HAVE TO offer Cotto anything after that fight, but he did. Would GBP have gotten Cotto a fight with Pacquiao? Especially considering Cotto at that point would've been just months removed from leaving Top Rank? Helll No....

[mariobrotherpr]

U are right about 1 thing & that's there is no way to find out after the fight has past if Margarito cheated vs Cotto!!But Margarito did try to load his gloves vs Mosley,top rank went out of their way to defend Margarito & traveled across states to get him a fight with Pacman!!A man that was caught loading his gloves shouldn't be fighting the pfp king for a vacant title,no less at a catchweight,period!!

Yes there is. It's called Attempted Assault. Top Rank (nor MOSLEY himself, because he couldn't care less, since he won) never pushed the DA to pursue charges. Maybe not against Margarito, but against someone from his team, because someone had intention. With jail in front of someone from Team Margarito, people would talk.

NRS 200.471 Assault: Definitions; penalties.

1. As used in this section:

(a) “Assault” means1) Unlawfully attempting to use physical force against another person; or (2) Intentionally placing another person in reasonable apprehension of immediate bodily harm.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Find a way to opt out of Ur top rank contract??It's clear as day that father Arum cares nothing about U!!If U signed with golden boy,maybe U & Floyd could have hooked up at 154,ur skills are above average & Floyd isn't a pressure fighter so U wouldn't fold!!I only give U at most a 40% chance of winning,but its better than the in house abuse under bob arum!!

Then after u loose impressively to Floyd,maybe,just maybe U could have been able to get Arum (through)golden boy to get U a rematch with Margarito for his title that he will have been awarded for his catchweight title fight against Manny!!But if that fight didn't happen U could have simply rode off into the sunset from Ur career high payday against Floyd,or if U managed to pull the upset,have a rematch,then ride off into the sunset!!

This is ****** as hell. Don't care about you??? Bro anyone who can get me paid MILLIONS sure as hell cares about me. Cotto is set for life cause of Arum. Like it or not.

[jrosales13]

U are right about 1 thing & that's there is no way to find out after the fight has past if Margarito cheated vs Cotto!!But Margarito did try to load his gloves vs Mosley,top rank went out of their way to defend Margarito & traveled across states to get him a fight with Pacman!!A man that was caught loading his gloves shouldn't be fighting the pfp king for a vacant title,no less at a catchweight,period!!

First it was against Mosley not a top rank fighter.

Do you think if it was Cotto would have been busted against Shane that Top rank wouldn't have done the same thing?

If your issue is the Pac-Marg fight or the Marg period. Then so be it and make that your issue.

However, top rank has done absolute right by Cotto. Even tried to feed him JCC jr for big money.

Where is top rank doing wrong by Cotto? Because, they're looking at facts like anybody with sense is and that is that there is no proof that Marg cheated against Cotto so also trying to do right by Marg and Cotto?