Margarito: Please turn back the clock and KO him.

[PEBBLES!]

just think a slow SHOT marg made floyd duck him


bwahhahah

Floyd never ducked Margarito and even if you believe he did, Margarito wasn't shot then.

[Gorilla Dogs]

Floyd never ducked Margarito and even if you believe he did, Margarito wasn't shot then.

lol yea i know. marg was prime back then. wish they fought tho. but can see why he picked pretty boy de la hoya ....... $$$$$

[the gent]

Alright whatever you say *******. Next time take Pacs balls out of your mouth before you type.


1. I don't give a fucck who wins.
2. You are an idiot.


I would love to see both of them get KTFO.

How do you like that?? Huh???

Idiot.

I thought you were leaving Burner's thread????

****** ****.

Leave Burners thread,,Waaaaa! Don't say mean things on Burners thread, Waaaaaa! I hate when people say bad things on Burners thread , Waaaaaa.

Are you serious dude? Seems like the only person here with someone's nuts in their mouth is you kid.

[HARLEM AL]

F-ck the TS. I want PAC to win.

Also it should be noted he is a p Williams d1ck rider. He just like to be a Floyd fan when it comes to PAC.

Smh @ hating a fighter for fighting at a CW while d1ck riding 1 that's doing the same ****.

[PEBBLES!]

Leave Burners thread,,Waaaaa! Don't say mean things on Burners thread, Waaaaaa! I hate when people say bad things on Burners thread , Waaaaaa.

Are you serious dude? Seems like the only person here with someone's nuts in their mouth is you kid.

No, you were the little ******* android puppet who came into this thread, crying like a little girl cause someone said something negative about your 'Deity' Pacman.



Don't cry bro.

[hugh grant]

Please take us back to 2005-06 and knock this clown out. I know you're shot, slow, methodical and plasterless.

But dig down and beat his ass for all of mankind.

Thank you.




That is all.

Boy you are mean and nasty. Pac has to beat Margarito for sure now, because some people so badly want Pac to lose.

[Aussie!]

Please take us back to 2005-06 and knock this clown out. I know you're shot, slow, methodical and plasterless.

But dig down and beat his ass for all of mankind.

Thank you.




That is all.

he can't take us back to 2005-2006.

because if we believe the general consensus that he's been using plaster all along, then all his wins when he was "prime" were all a fraud.

translation:

if all your "prime" wins were disputable due to cheating, basically you were "shot" all along.

[the gent]

No, you were the little ******* android puppet who came into this thread, crying like a little girl cause someone said something negative about your 'Deity' Pacman.



Don't cry bro.

First off, i never mentioned Pac in my original post, so there goes that.

You were just quick to jump on the Burner protection army. Which is weird and strange on some message board.

To be honest, i don't know who the hell Burner is, and i don't care, but if your laying next to him (i can only assume your are), I'm sure even he will tell you to stop being such a little bit*h.

Don't get in a **** talking contest with me rookie, you will lose every time.

[bsinoka123]

They are both cheaters in my eyes. Im rooting for the cheater who wsnt punished to lose.

I really dont care for Floyd-Pac. Margarito winning this fight would shake things up in the sport.

And you know Pac will never agree to full OST's.

I posted this comment on another boxing forum, I want to re-post it here since this OST topic won't die.
I enjoy reading posts in the boxing forum. Sometimes Its funny, sometimes it doesnt make any sense at all This Manny/Floyd dream fight should be put in the backburner already because it will not happen. There are other boxers and fights worth dicussing but for some reason, this Manny/Floyd topic keeps popping up. So I want to express my opinion since this topic became hot.
I thought this PED and scared of needles are old topic but Floyd fans keep on digging old issues and start arguments they cannot win and accussations they cannot prove.What is clear is , Floyd doesnt want any part of Manny Pacquiao. So, I want to dedicate my comment to all Floyd fans. I want to start from the first failed negotiation up to the latest..
I feel sorry to all Floyd Jrs. fans who are still in the dark. They cannot throw any other accusation against Manny to destroy him except mentioning over and over that Manny refuses random blood tests, so he should be guilty of using PED. The truth is Manny did not refuse the test and the only disagreement was the cut-off period. Manny agreed to unlimited urinalysis and even agreed to the blood test right after the fight. (That's what happened to the recent May/Mosley fight).
Manny was voted as the Fighter of the Year and Fighter of the Decade by the people whose business is sports/boxing. What does it mean? It means that these people do not believe the accussation. If you accuse a person of any crime, you must have proof/evidence. The Mayweathers have not shown any proof up to this very moment. Even the smoking gun (e-mail stating that if Manny should test positive for PED, it should be kept confidential) is yet to surface. Also, I cannot remember any championship fight wherein the challenger dictates the terms of the fight.
Some people are superstitious and athletes are no exemption. Some pro-athletes will eat the same food, wear the same underwear, do the same routine because it works for them. They are winning. Some MLB players will not even step on the chalkline because they believe it is unlucky. ***ish players will not play during ***ish holy days because of their religious belief. Friday the 13th is bad, horseshoes are good, black cats are bad, rabbits' feet are good, etc. etc. Let me mention Marquez who drinks his own pee because he believes it gives him strength and endurance. Marquez lost to Floyd and it was no issue. If Marquez won that fight, I believe Floyds fan will rise in protest because Marquez used PED (Pee Enhanced Drink). Manny believes drawing blood close to the fight affects him negatively and should not be dismissed as nonsense. If you accept other peoples belief but not Manny's, that is clear bias.
One of the most discussed topic in this forum is why Mosley agreed to the test while Manny "refuses." Mosley admitted using steroids in the past. The demand for OST was valid. Manny has no history of usage anytime, anywhere. Mayweather Sr. started this accussation, and to give in to their ridiculous demand is insulting.
Another hot topic is the $10M penalty per pound over the agreed weight. Floyd came in 2 pounds over the contracted weight against Marquez and did not even try to lose it. Because the penalty was so small ($600,000), he just paid-off Marquez. What is a $600,000.00 penalty compared to a multi-million $ paycheck? Floyd entered the ring with all the advantages on his side. That was even playing field--Mayweather style. Manny lost the Flyweight world title because he tried to make the weight. He had clearly outgrown the division but still tried to honor the contract. He entered the ring spent, dehydrated and weak.
Some are still asking: Why did Manny walked away from a $30M plus paycheck for a simple random blood test? Why don't you people ask Floyd instead why he scuttled a $30M plus paycheck by making ridiculous demands not even required by the sanctioning body? He never even demanded it from all his previous opponents (except Mosley). Hall of famers and former world champions Ledwaba, Barrera, Morales, JMM, Diaz, Cotto and Clottey never raised any issue against Manny regarding PED. They could have to lessen the impact of their loss, but they did not. Because they are real fighters and gentlemen.
Some of us will sell our soul to the devil for a million $, but there are exceptions. Some people will fight for their principle no matter how ridiculous it may look. Muhammad Ali lost his world title and faced possible jail sentence because he fought for his principle and religious belief. He was hailed a hero.
Now lets separate facts from fiction:
1. Mayweather Sr. spend some jail time (drug related)--- Fact
2. Roger Mayweather faces felony charges of beating and choking a female
boxer--- Fact
3. An associate of Floyd Jr. has been arrested for attempted murder and
assault with deadly weapon --- Fact
4. Manny Pacquiao is using PED --- Fiction (unless somebody can produce the
e-mail or furnish any name(s) of persons or laboratories linking Manny to
PED, or any positive test result in the past.
5. Fighter of the Year --- Floyd --- Fact
Manny --- Fact
6. Fighter of the Century -- Manny -- Fact
Floyd --- Fiction (In his mind)
7. ESPY---Manny---Fact
Floyd----Fact
Comparing these facts, comparison alone will tell you who is more credible between Floyd and Manny.
Admit it, Mayweather fans. You want to see this fight happening. But you want Manny to give in. Why don't you instead ask Floyd to drop that ridiculous demand and just fight since Mayweather Sr. keeps on saying that Floyd will whip Manny's ass with or without PED?
Lately the "soft" deadline for Floyd to sign the contract has passed and this time Floyd fans blame Arum. For once, Floyd fans, please open your eyes. A simple explanation from Floyd as to why he wont sign the contract will be sufficient or he simply ran out of excuses. You (Floyd fans) are also criticizing Pacquiao's next opponent (Margarito). At least Pacquiao wants to be active and is fighting. How about Floyd? He wants to take some time off, boxing is not on his mind right now,etc. etc. And also there was a rumor that he (Floyd) wants to face Clottey, A fighter you characterized then as a nobody, no good, a bum when he lost to Pacquiao. Lets see if your idol Mayweather will face Bradley, Williams and other notable names you want Manny Pacquiao to face.Since Ross Greenburg confirmed that negotiations really took place, I have some excuses here that Mayweather fans can use to save face. Smile, these are jokes only, but if you're hurt, you are definitely a Mayweather die-hard fan.
1. Greenburg and Arum are ***ish, they have to back-up each other.
2. Greenburg was speaking in ***ish that Schaeffer, Ellerbe, Haymon and Oscar cannot understand.
3. Arum is the majority owner of HBO.
4. There was a threat to Greenburg if he won't side with Arum.
5. Greenburg was negotiating with Colonel Sanders. He thought the Colonel is Floyds manager.
6. Change the topic. Go back to old issue----Manny is on PED etc. etc.
. This is what Floyd fans are doing right now . I give them credit for that. And also in defense of Floyd, his fans wants to "see" what is contained in the contract. If Manny agreed to the random blood testing...etc..etc..Cant you see that all Floyd has to do is speak and tell his fans that Manny did not agree to any or some of his demand thats why he won't sign the contract, and he will not be branded as coward, chicken, ducker. But why the silence.Lately Manny and Freddie Roach said publicly that Manny agreed to all the demands of Floyd to make the fight happen. I am now waiting for Floyd to dispute this.

[Aussie!]

I posted this comment on another boxing forum, I want to re-post it here since this OST topic won't die.
I enjoy reading posts in the boxing forum. Sometimes Its funny, sometimes it doesnt make any sense at all This Manny/Floyd dream fight should be put in the backburner already because it will not happen. There are other boxers and fights worth dicussing but for some reason, this Manny/Floyd topic keeps popping up. So I want to express my opinion since this topic became hot.
I thought this PED and scared of needles are old topic but Floyd fans keep on digging old issues and start arguments they cannot win and accussations they cannot prove.What is clear is , Floyd doesnt want any part of Manny Pacquiao. So, I want to dedicate my comment to all Floyd fans. I want to start from the first failed negotiation up to the latest..
I feel sorry to all Floyd Jrs. fans who are still in the dark. They cannot throw any other accusation against Manny to destroy him except mentioning over and over that Manny refuses random blood tests, so he should be guilty of using PED. The truth is Manny did not refuse the test and the only disagreement was the cut-off period. Manny agreed to unlimited urinalysis and even agreed to the blood test right after the fight. (That's what happened to the recent May/Mosley fight).
Manny was voted as the Fighter of the Year and Fighter of the Decade by the people whose business is sports/boxing. What does it mean? It means that these people do not believe the accussation. If you accuse a person of any crime, you must have proof/evidence. The Mayweathers have not shown any proof up to this very moment. Even the smoking gun (e-mail stating that if Manny should test positive for PED, it should be kept confidential) is yet to surface. Also, I cannot remember any championship fight wherein the challenger dictates the terms of the fight.
Some people are superstitious and athletes are no exemption. Some pro-athletes will eat the same food, wear the same underwear, do the same routine because it works for them. They are winning. Some MLB players will not even step on the chalkline because they believe it is unlucky. ***ish players will not play during ***ish holy days because of their religious belief. Friday the 13th is bad, horseshoes are good, black cats are bad, rabbits' feet are good, etc. etc. Let me mention Marquez who drinks his own pee because he believes it gives him strength and endurance. Marquez lost to Floyd and it was no issue. If Marquez won that fight, I believe Floyds fan will rise in protest because Marquez used PED (Pee Enhanced Drink). Manny believes drawing blood close to the fight affects him negatively and should not be dismissed as nonsense. If you accept other peoples belief but not Manny's, that is clear bias.
One of the most discussed topic in this forum is why Mosley agreed to the test while Manny "refuses." Mosley admitted using steroids in the past. The demand for OST was valid. Manny has no history of usage anytime, anywhere. Mayweather Sr. started this accussation, and to give in to their ridiculous demand is insulting.
Another hot topic is the $10M penalty per pound over the agreed weight. Floyd came in 2 pounds over the contracted weight against Marquez and did not even try to lose it. Because the penalty was so small ($600,000), he just paid-off Marquez. What is a $600,000.00 penalty compared to a multi-million $ paycheck? Floyd entered the ring with all the advantages on his side. That was even playing field--Mayweather style. Manny lost the Flyweight world title because he tried to make the weight. He had clearly outgrown the division but still tried to honor the contract. He entered the ring spent, dehydrated and weak.
Some are still asking: Why did Manny walked away from a $30M plus paycheck for a simple random blood test? Why don't you people ask Floyd instead why he scuttled a $30M plus paycheck by making ridiculous demands not even required by the sanctioning body? He never even demanded it from all his previous opponents (except Mosley). Hall of famers and former world champions Ledwaba, Barrera, Morales, JMM, Diaz, Cotto and Clottey never raised any issue against Manny regarding PED. They could have to lessen the impact of their loss, but they did not. Because they are real fighters and gentlemen.
Some of us will sell our soul to the devil for a million $, but there are exceptions. Some people will fight for their principle no matter how ridiculous it may look. Muhammad Ali lost his world title and faced possible jail sentence because he fought for his principle and religious belief. He was hailed a hero.
Now lets separate facts from fiction:
1. Mayweather Sr. spend some jail time (drug related)--- Fact
2. Roger Mayweather faces felony charges of beating and choking a female
boxer--- Fact
3. An associate of Floyd Jr. has been arrested for attempted murder and
assault with deadly weapon --- Fact
4. Manny Pacquiao is using PED --- Fiction (unless somebody can produce the
e-mail or furnish any name(s) of persons or laboratories linking Manny to
PED, or any positive test result in the past.
5. Fighter of the Year --- Floyd --- Fact
Manny --- Fact
6. Fighter of the Century -- Manny -- Fact
Floyd --- Fiction (In his mind)
7. ESPY---Manny---Fact
Floyd----Fact
Comparing these facts, comparison alone will tell you who is more credible between Floyd and Manny.
Admit it, Mayweather fans. You want to see this fight happening. But you want Manny to give in. Why don't you instead ask Floyd to drop that ridiculous demand and just fight since Mayweather Sr. keeps on saying that Floyd will whip Manny's ass with or without PED?
Lately the "soft" deadline for Floyd to sign the contract has passed and this time Floyd fans blame Arum. For once, Floyd fans, please open your eyes. A simple explanation from Floyd as to why he wont sign the contract will be sufficient or he simply ran out of excuses. You (Floyd fans) are also criticizing Pacquiao's next opponent (Margarito). At least Pacquiao wants to be active and is fighting. How about Floyd? He wants to take some time off, boxing is not on his mind right now,etc. etc. And also there was a rumor that he (Floyd) wants to face Clottey, A fighter you characterized then as a nobody, no good, a bum when he lost to Pacquiao. Lets see if your idol Mayweather will face Bradley, Williams and other notable names you want Manny Pacquiao to face.Since Ross Greenburg confirmed that negotiations really took place, I have some excuses here that Mayweather fans can use to save face. Smile, these are jokes only, but if you're hurt, you are definitely a Mayweather die-hard fan.
1. Greenburg and Arum are ***ish, they have to back-up each other.
2. Greenburg was speaking in ***ish that Schaeffer, Ellerbe, Haymon and Oscar cannot understand.
3. Arum is the majority owner of HBO.
4. There was a threat to Greenburg if he won't side with Arum.
5. Greenburg was negotiating with Colonel Sanders. He thought the Colonel is Floyds manager.
6. Change the topic. Go back to old issue----Manny is on PED etc. etc.
. This is what Floyd fans are doing right now . I give them credit for that. And also in defense of Floyd, his fans wants to "see" what is contained in the contract. If Manny agreed to the random blood testing...etc..etc..Cant you see that all Floyd has to do is speak and tell his fans that Manny did not agree to any or some of his demand thats why he won't sign the contract, and he will not be branded as coward, chicken, ducker. But why the silence.Lately Manny and Freddie Roach said publicly that Manny agreed to all the demands of Floyd to make the fight happen. I am now waiting for Floyd to dispute this.

no one's reading that.

it's a sure fire recipe for eye problems.