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    #31
    Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
    Where is Roberts gym?
    Garcia is a stand up dude.
    I forget the address to be honest

    and yes Robert is one cool dude

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      #32
      Not a bad undercard. I will be there live!

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        #33
        I wish I could be there live

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          #34
          Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
          it's a few things

          the loyalty at which he showed Garcia

          the manner at which he acted in Oxnard

          I do think Bam's story is a bit embellished but not by much according to those who live in Oxnard and have no alliances to either side

          essentially Ortiz acted like he ran Oxnard when he changed everything and hung out with some less than choir boy like people. Those people he told that Rios was the enemy so they made it a point to make Brandon very not welcomed there

          I know it seems odd given the looks of the two. Ortiz comes off very smooth and polished while Rios comes as rough and thuggish but in essence Rios has calmed down a lot.
          Interesting.

          To add to that, here's what Doug Fischer said about it:

          The grudge against Ortiz stems from Victor leaving Robert Garcia (as well as manager Cameron Dunkin and Top Rank) to train with Robert’s older brother Danny (and sign with managers Shelly Finkel and Rolando Arellano and GBP). What pisses Rios off are comments that Ortiz reportedly made about Robert in court when he was trying to get out of his promotional contract with Top Rank. I guess the comments weren’t nice. Robert won’t tell me what Victor said but he said that the words “hurt” him deeply. I guess Brandon, being a fiercely loyal dude, wants to score one of his team in a grudge match with his old amateur pal (both grew up in Garden City, Kansas) and stablemate.




          It's a shame about the whole GB/TR cold war, otherwise we might have a chance of seeing Rios-Ortiz get it on.

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            #35
            Originally posted by MGM-134 View Post
            Interesting.

            To add to that, here's what Doug Fischer said about it:

            The grudge against Ortiz stems from Victor leaving Robert Garcia (as well as manager Cameron Dunkin and Top Rank) to train with Robert’s older brother Danny (and sign with managers Shelly Finkel and Rolando Arellano and GBP). What pisses Rios off are comments that Ortiz reportedly made about Robert in court when he was trying to get out of his promotional contract with Top Rank. I guess the comments weren’t nice. Robert won’t tell me what Victor said but he said that the words “hurt” him deeply. I guess Brandon, being a fiercely loyal dude, wants to score one of his team in a grudge match with his old amateur pal (both grew up in Garden City, Kansas) and stablemate.




            It's a shame about the whole GB/TR cold war, otherwise we might have a chance of seeing Rios-Ortiz get it on.
            WOw thats interesting
            thanks for the info
            This fight is gonna happen and soon
            that is a super funny Siggy

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              #36
              Originally posted by MGM-134 View Post
              Interesting.

              To add to that, here's what Doug Fischer said about it:

              The grudge against Ortiz stems from Victor leaving Robert Garcia (as well as manager Cameron Dunkin and Top Rank) to train with Robert’s older brother Danny (and sign with managers Shelly Finkel and Rolando Arellano and GBP). What pisses Rios off are comments that Ortiz reportedly made about Robert in court when he was trying to get out of his promotional contract with Top Rank. I guess the comments weren’t nice. Robert won’t tell me what Victor said but he said that the words “hurt” him deeply. I guess Brandon, being a fiercely loyal dude, wants to score one of his team in a grudge match with his old amateur pal (both grew up in Garden City, Kansas) and stablemate.




              It's a shame about the whole GB/TR cold war, otherwise we might have a chance of seeing Rios-Ortiz get it on.
              hmmm..... just read dougies entire post about rios.

              ****** opinions concerning the fight night weight.

              if a fighter wants to drain himself and kill himself cutting weight that's on them imo.

              i've seen lightweights come in 155 on fight night. if they want to cut that much weight it's on them. as long as they make the weigh in limit.


              funny. a guy puts on a lot of weight after the weigh in and losses and they say it's because they cut too much.

              a guy puts on a lot of weight after the weigh in and wins and they had an unfair advantage.

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                #37
                Originally posted by thephantom5 View Post
                Below is the current working bout sheet for Top Rank’s November 13 Pacquiao-Margarito mega-show at Cowboys Stadium in Dallas, Texas:

                Manny Pacquiao vs Antonio Margarito
                Kelly Pavlik vs Brian Vera
                Guillermo Rigondeaux vs Ricardo Cordoba
                Mike Jones vs Jesus Soto Karass
                Jose Benavidez vs Winston Mathis
                Mike Lee vs Keith DeBow

                Joe Hanks vs TBA
                Robert Marroquin vs TBA
                Richie Mepranum vs TBA
                September 22nd, 2010

                Pretty sweet card if you ask me.



                oh hell yea...TBA is fighting again

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                  #38
                  Flash Elorde's grandson is looking for a spot on the undercard. Manny's planning to put him in.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by -pound4pound- View Post
                    oh hell yea...TBA is fighting again
                    He is in for one hell of a night
                    3 matches back to back to back
                    Damn!!!!!!!!!
                    he has to lose weight gain weight then lose weight?
                    he is one tuff dude!\
                    ROTF

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                      hmmm..... just read dougies entire post about rios.

                      ****** opinions concerning the fight night weight.

                      if a fighter wants to drain himself and kill himself cutting weight that's on them imo.

                      i've seen lightweights come in 155 on fight night. if they want to cut that much weight it's on them. as long as they make the weigh in limit.


                      funny. a guy puts on a lot of weight after the weigh in and losses and they say it's because they cut too much.

                      a guy puts on a lot of weight after the weigh in and wins and they had an unfair advantage.
                      exactly, people choose whichever explanation favors the fighter they're rooting for.

                      there's another recent article on ringtv talking about this same issue:

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