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    #11
    Originally posted by da beatdown View Post
    lol...if he beats pac...JCC jr will be Arums new ticket
    Then which fight will Bob push? Cause you know he's gonna keep that in house.

    JCC Jr. vs. Tony
    or
    Cotto vs. Tony?

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      #12
      very interesting read...........i agree but im still going for pac i want to see pac vs mayweather sorry

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        #13
        Originally posted by boxing2106 View Post
        very interesting read...........i agree but im still going for pac i want to see pac vs mayweather sorry
        I think we all want to see that fight because it has been engraved in our minds to be the biggest fight out there. I just hope that if it does happen, it's not a ****ty fight and we are satisfied with the outcome, whatever it may be, because they finally fought.

        On the other hand, if it sucks and is one-sided and lets just say Floyd wins easy - Will we go back and say that we wish Tony would have won against Manny so he would have fought Floyd Jr., because it would have been a better fight?

        Bottom line is that we are never satisfied as fans anymore. We want more and more and we want it to be great because we think we deserve it. I wish it was that simple, but some fighters are not about making us happy, they are about making money. So in the end again, we will complain. It's a neverending chain of events.

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          #14
          What Mosley did right that Cotto didn't was that he held/clinched Margo right after Mosley finished with his flurries or felt that he was in position to get hit by Margo.

          Roach will hopefully add that as part of his game plan as Manny is similar to Cotto in that respect.

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            #15
            Originally posted by mruiz9 View Post
            I think we all want to see that fight because it has been engraved in our minds to be the biggest fight out there. I just hope that if it does happen, it's not a ****ty fight and we are satisfied with the outcome, whatever it may be, because they finally fought.

            On the other hand, if it sucks and is one-sided and lets just say Floyd wins easy - Will we go back and say that we wish Tony would have won against Manny so he would have fought Floyd Jr., because it would have been a better fight?

            Bottom line is that we are never satisfied as fans anymore. We want more and more and we want it to be great because we think we deserve it. I wish it was that simple, but some fighters are not about making us happy, they are about making money. So in the end again, we will complain. It's a neverending chain of events.
            Pretty much. Although it must be said that:

            If Pacquiao dominates every round it will be considered a great fight and immediately compared with the greatest ones.
            If Mayweather dominates every round, well it's "one sided bah, Mayweather only fights when he knows he can win"

            That's EXTREMELY unfair. Like i said, Floyd will only be considered like the others when he retires. I remember Ali and i saw all the tape and before he was the greatest, while he was still active, he was the clown, people would smirk when he said that and now he's truly the greatest. I think Floyd is similar, made of the same cloth.

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              #16
              I want margarito to win, all depends on the middle rounds, whether pacman dominates or margarito can presure pacquiao and land big shots

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                #17
                tony is just not fast enough, so i just cant see him winning. the only chance for the upset to happen is if pac gets cornered and ko'd by the volume of punching. i dont see that happening though, i see pac hitting and moving all night long, pacs footwork and handspeed are just way too much for tony to handle. i expect an easy night for manny, ill say tony goes down in the eighth.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Allucard View Post
                  Pretty much. Although it must be said that:

                  If Pacquiao dominates every round it will be considered a great fight and immediately compared with the greatest ones.
                  If Mayweather dominates every round, well it's "one sided bah, Mayweather only fights when he knows he can win"

                  That's EXTREMELY unfair. Like i said, Floyd will only be considered like the others when he retires. I remember Ali and i saw all the tape and before he was the greatest, while he was still active, he was the clown, people would smirk when he said that and now he's truly the greatest. I think Floyd is similar, made of the same cloth.
                  Floyd has the talent and ability to go down in history as an ATG but not he lacks the heart. Ali fought the best in his division and often times he fought them multiple times. Unless Floyd follows through with his statement of fighting only the best for the remainder of his career, I believe he will be remembered more as a could have been, rather than as a great.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RA-Box View Post
                    Margarito beat Martinez. Martinez even said it was a legitimate victory, also he's got a pretty sick uppercut with range. That's something we haven't seen in Manny's latest fights and could be a game-changer.

                    Just some reason why he MIGHT pull out the shock victory.

                    Now why I want him to win?? I want Margarito to be on an upswing for a Margarito vs Martinez rematch at 160. I know Martinez wants it and aside from a cotto rematch, what else would you want to see?
                    Yeah. He's a big volume puncher. And pressure from a tall man is different than pressure from a little guy. So while Manny could handle Hatton coming forward, he may not be able to handle Marg. All that aside, I favor Manny to win the fight by Mid/Late TKO. Would not be totally surprised if Marg won though. If only he wasn't so damn slow.

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                      #20
                      Unless Margarito develops some speed over night, and Pac regress speed-wise and Pac elect to fight in a phone-booth face-first then Margarito has NO chance...Margarito gets a worse beating than Cotto got in November.

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