If Toney and Pernell had such great defense, why do they slur so badly?

[mrpain81]

[Gino Ros]

They probably took allot of punishment during sparring, your sparring partner trains everyday with you , he knows your style. So sparring partners usually hit you more then your opponent

what does more damage, a bad knockout or a lot of medium punches?

tommy hearns took a couple bad knockouts and he slurs bad. pernell and toney took some medium punches but not that many.

in some fights pernell almost did not get hit.

[BoxerXL]

what does more damage, a bad knockout or a lot of medium punches?

tommy hearns took a couple bad knockouts and he slurs bad. pernell and toney took some medium punches but not that many.

in some fights pernell almost did not get hit.

A one punch knockout is less worse then getting punched over and over again for 12 rounds

[Gino Ros]

A one punch knockout is less worse then getting punched over and over again for 12 rounds

becaue tommy hearns slurs really badly.

and even young guys like litzau slurs badly.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

Carl Froch takes lots of shots and speaks the queens English.

[jaskieee]

Im sure they have spoken like that there entire careers. More than just boxing can give you slurred speech. Its like saying why are Oscar De La Hoya and the late Arturo Gatti so well spoken even though they have taken some decent beatings

[aristotlemoses]

I mean Toney while being a defensive great also had over 80 fights plus all the sparring and so on and so forth. So I mean that just takes a toll no matter how great the defense

[JK1700]

Carl Froch takes lots of shots and speaks the queens English.

It won't be like that in 10-15 years time if he keeps fighting with his hands down. The reason that Toney and Whitaker had bad speech is because they both stuck around for longer than they shouldve done. Toney took alot of punishment in his losses to Samuel Peter and Whitaker took alot of punishment in his loss to Trinidad. I think Pernell's condition has worsened due to his heavy drug abuse in the years since he retired. But I think what he took was more bad for him because he was a small guy who could proberbly have made 130. Instead he was fighting at 135, 140, 147 and even 154. Against much bigger opponents. It's the same with James Toney.

But I do think that the defensive skills of both fighters were slightly overrated. They both got hit alot towards the end of their careers and even in their prime, they had tough fights. Your defence can be great but when your fighting elite competition, they are still going to land. Dave Tiberi landed over 400 punches against Toney in their fight according to compubox. And Pernell had close fights with Buddy McGirt, Wilfredo Rivera and Diosbelys Hurtado so they must have hit him a few times.

[eli porter]

Carl Froch takes lots of shots and speaks the queens English.

Obviously then he's a lot better defensively then toney or whitaker.

[Gino Ros]

Carl Froch takes lots of shots and speaks the queens English.

froch is still very young.