Comments Thread For: Margarito: Texas Decision By Friday, Tour is Next Week

[edgarg]

Can't remember the commercial but it says "If you don't get you just don't get it" and you fall into that category.

There are a couple of other things i could say about you, which would also be UNDERSTATEMENTS..........BIGnunderstatements.

Still....no harm done.

[Strike Back]

is there a 24/7 for this?

There is a camera crew currently filming all the stuff going on. I know for sure there was one in the courtroom of the CSAC because Dan Rafael mentioned it about 10 times via twitter when he was giving us the play by play.

I support Margarito getting a licence, so I won't be emailing. That ludicrous Commission just wanted him to apply so that they could show their "muscle" by denying him, something he is perfectly entitled to. Pure malice.

What right have they to deny a man the right tio earn his living the best way he knows how.

How is it that sudenly Margarito is an evil warlock, a criminal, notwithstanding that fact that the original Commission found his trainer to blame, not him. Why did they suspend him for ONE YEAR, a penalty he faithfully carried out (didn't box in Mexico etc) only to deny him again after his suspension had elapsed??? WHY...?? They've just sentenced him AGAIN, and what did he do to earn THIS??? How can this be LEGAL??

I wonder do they themselves know??

They didn't sentence him and he is not currently suspended or banned. They just denied him a license. He was only suspended during the 1 year suspension which the CSAC gave him as punishment. After that point, he was free to apply anywhere and box since he served the punishment handed down. However, since it was such a high profile case and everyone had their eyes on it (Seriously think about it, this is the most exposure boxing is getting other than Pac/May), they (NSAC) tabled it and asked he go to CSAC and re-apply there before they can consider. Just to be clear, NSAC did not deny him, they just told him they would not license him or consider it until he applied in California first. Since he has done that, he can re-apply cleanly and the only thing the other states need to look at is if they believe he is worthy of a license. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

While commisions do respect eachother, they do have their own opinions and needs (funding from large events and a sort of 'stimulus' from the spending of tourism), and will do what they think is best for the state and the commision.

Honestly, I believe the CSAC should have given him a temporary probationary license. That would put extra eyes on him and also make him pay extra money for the additional probation. I believe they were only tough on him since it was so high profile and because 24/7 was there. I do believe they were making an example but were fully aware that Margarito wont be fighting there within a year so they denied him to set a standard for "would be" cheaters. I believe next time he goes back, they license him and don't bat an eye. I do believe Texas will license him.

Hate it or love it, boxing needs this drama if Floyd and Manny don't fight until next year. Just my two cents.

[empiricix]

I know, right? From state to state

Yeah, and it's been months since that deadline and still no word from Floyd.

[edgarg]

idk why bob arum is trying so hard i mean he is basically eating **** trying to make this fight happen when someone dont have a licence and there's a lot more deserving fighter to take marg's place and fight PAC.... PAC does not make decisions bob arum makes it for him thats why i advice any young fighter not to sign with him cuz of **** like this i hate this guy so much that i cant stop saying it...

Listen Cassius Marcellus Ali, and all the other DUMBOS........Arum does NOT decide who Manny P fights, maybe the Promoters can expect prelim and journey fighters to take their lchoices, but not a top liner. Manny P. decides who he both wants to, and will fight. NO ONE ELSE.. I think we have been all trhough that crap for years now, all about Svengali Arum stealing the food from Manny's pocket and all that crap.

Arum has made Manny, and a great many others into millionaires of high standing and repute. Some with HUGE bank balances.

He is SUPPOSED to (probably by contract, if not by decency) to present possibly suitable fighters to to decided on, also to do the very best for his fighter (probably in the contracts)
which INCLUDES MARGARITO, since he is not allowed by law, not inclination, not decency, to make himself into a judge and jury (a hanging Judge) ESPECIALLY since he keeps pointing out....as he should.... that the Commission, although they found his trainer to be to blame, absolved Margarito of all intent.

AND..... lest we forget, the penalty was ONE YEAR SUSPENSION from fighting in CALIFORNIA, a penalty which was also honoured by the other States. Margarito waited out the time, losing millions of dollars thereby, since he could have fought in Mexico.

NOW, those scoundrels of Commissions not only insist that Margarito, who mind you, has been found to have done nothing wrong, appear before them to reapply for his licence, and when he dutifully does, they tuen him down, all the time shedding crocadile tears of compassion. A bunch of scoundrels, just wanting to further humiiate a helpless fighter.

SCANDELOUS.

Arum is absolutely right to stand up for his fighter, in fact if he didn't Margarito would have a strong cause for legal action to force contract compliance.

So why the hell are all you little pea-brains getting your gatkes' in a knot over a promoter's normal carrying out of his responsibilities.

Maybe it's because Arum is a founder member of the Council of "The Elders of Zion"........

[edgarg]

There is a camera crew currently filming all the stuff going on. I know for sure there was one in the courtroom of the CSAC because Dan Rafael mentioned it about 10 times via twitter when he was giving us the play by play.



They didn't sentence him and he is not currently suspended or banned. They just denied him a license. He was only suspended during the 1 year suspension which the CSAC gave him as punishment. After that point, he was free to apply anywhere and box since he served the punishment handed down. However, since it was such a high profile case and everyone had their eyes on it (Seriously think about it, this is the most exposure boxing is getting other than Pac/May), they (NSAC) tabled it and asked he go to CSAC and re-apply there before they can consider. Just to be clear, NSAC did not deny him, they just told him they would not license him or consider it until he applied in California first. Since he has done that, he can re-apply cleanly and the only thing the other states need to look at is if they believe he is worthy of a license. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

While commisions do respect eachother, they do have their own opinions and needs (funding from large events and a sort of 'stimulus' from the spending of tourism), and will do what they think is best for the state and the commision.

Honestly, I believe the CSAC should have given him a temporary probationary license. That would put extra eyes on him and also make him pay extra money for the additional probation. I believe they were only tough on him since it was so high profile and because 24/7 was there. I do believe they were making an example but were fully aware that Margarito wont be fighting there within a year so they denied him to set a standard for "would be" cheaters. I believe next time he goes back, they license him and don't bat an eye. I do believe Texas will license him.

Hate it or love it, boxing needs this drama if Floyd and Manny don't fight until next year. Just my two cents.

I'm glad you think that they should have given him a licince, even a temporary one, as there are few enought of us who think he should be allowed to fight. That they didn't "re-sentence" him is only a word play, they didn't give he his licence, even though they insisted that he ahdt to apply to them before he could get one. That's really the sa,e thing. They sentenced him again to whatever length of time, MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL YEAR, during which they won't give him his licince back. This is shameful behavious for a bunch of fat-cats, who live off the money that Margarito and others pay them for permission each time they fight. and, in Margarito's case, it's been a lot of money, for some years now.

It's crap like this which takes away any glamour that new fans may believe exists in the sport of the modern gladiators.

[edgarg]

Ban the dam cheeto for life, I dont care for this guy, specially after watching his *****y performances with out the plaster bricks inside his gloves. Hi is a shame for boxing, lets forget about this scum bag!!!

Surely you must find it more enjoyable playing around with that girl in the picture, {even of only in your imagination}than slanging (in the most ignorant way) a guy you don't know from Adam. At least I would, as would any normal guy.

Maybe that's not you...Huh??

[edgarg]

Doing press tours in states that have the nuts to say no, Arum you rotten piece of trash. I wish boxing commissions had power to pull plug on T.V. carriers from broadcasting unlicensed fighters in their individual states. Then that smug prick couldn't ram this bogus crap down our throats. See you in hell Bob.

Yes, you will likely "see him in hell".....when he comes to visit.

You're nuts and should be taking medication. Astonishing how many sub-normals there are around, actually able to look like notmal people......almost.

[Strike Back]

I'm glad you think that they should have given him a licince, even a temporary one, as there are few enought of us who think he should be allowed to fight. That they didn't "re-sentence" him is only a word play, they didn't give he his licence, even though they insisted that he ahdt to apply to them before he could get one. That's really the sa,e thing. They sentenced him again to whatever length of time, MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL YEAR, during which they won't give him his licince back. This is shameful behavious for a bunch of fat-cats, who live off the money that Margarito and others pay them for permission each time they fight. and, in Margarito's case, it's been a lot of money, for some years now.

It's crap like this which takes away any glamour that new fans may believe exists in the sport of the modern gladiators.

I hear ya... And I don't expect everyone to agree with this. I understand hatred because people think (I say think because nobody knows or has proof to back it up) Margarito assaulted their fighter in some way and hurt their sentiments for someone they believed was their savior. Hey, I get it - Your butthurt because Margarito ripped some new *******s and with what happened before Shane's fight, everyone thinks it was just another day at the office for him and his team and it's always been done that way. Unfortunately we don't know. And the fact that this is a question asked in the back of someones mind instead of it being a direct statement, proves nobody knows for sure deep down inside, no matter how much they say they do.

[ed*words]

hey ed*words. thats my point you idiot.

wow....getting worked up over harmless posts. part of the maturing process i guess, its taken you a while tho.
shake it off girl

[Championart]

I support Margarito getting a licence, so I won't be emailing. That ludicrous Commission just wanted him to apply so that they could show their "muscle" by denying him, something he is perfectly entitled to. Pure malice.

What right have they to deny a man the right tio earn his living the best way he knows how.

How is it that sudenly Margarito is an evil warlock, a criminal, notwithstanding that fact that the original Commission found his trainer to blame, not him. Why did they suspend him for ONE YEAR, a penalty he faithfully carried out (didn't box in Mexico etc) only to deny him again after his suspension had elapsed??? WHY...?? They've just sentenced him AGAIN, and what did he do to earn THIS??? How can this be LEGAL??

I wonder do they themselves know??

Margorito's suspension was for a year after which he would have the opportunity to reapply for his boxing license. Nowhere in the suspension terms for a year did it state that Margorito would be guaranteed his license after serving the years suspension. He still has to re-apply and the commissions have the right to deny him and them denying him is not sentencing him again. What you have to realize is that what he did is an attempted crime in the ring and is much worse to the sport of boxing than if he committed a crime outside of the ring.

If an employee of a bank attempts to rob the bank they work for and get caught and is suspended, fired or sentenced to jail, is the bank then obligated to re-hire that same employee who previously tried to rob them just because they served their time in jail or because its x amount of time since they were suspended? NO, it doesn't work like that my friend. Do you think Michael Vick can go and adopt, breed or raise pitbulls again after the crime he committed?

How can anyone defend Manny as a Congressman and as a top boxer rewarding an unlicensed cheat in Margorito who could have killed someone in the ring by giving him his biggest payday. Margorito or Mayweather are NOT the only two fights that could have been made for November. There are plenty of other fighters more deserving of this fight. This is truly a disgrace and should raise a lot of eyebrows with everyone but i haven't seen any articles tackling this very subject. Arum guaranteed this fight to Margorito back in February when he was still serving his suspension so all this talk about other possible opponents for pac was B.S. Arum also stated weeks ago that Texas guaranteed him that they would license Margorito for the fight in November regardless of what the other states does. If you guys don't see the blatant corruption here you are truly sheep.