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    #11
    I voted combination of both.

    That said....
    obviously boxing is about what you bring to the ring on fight night.
    Your good days in the gym and in prior matches don't really count.

    Whenever Chad was moved to throw, he generally did well.
    Whether he was unmotivated, or Pascal befuddled/shut him down
    somehow, fact remains he didn't do a whole lot.
    Last edited by horge; 08-19-2010, 11:09 PM.

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      #12
      Somedays you just don't have it and that's what it looked like to me. Chad was just flat and short of making it a brawl, which is not his style, he wasn't going to win. He just didn't have it that night.

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        #13
        Pavlik also did not have it against Hopkins. That was the worst he ever looked. Was it because he did not bring it or was it because Hopkins took away the tools he could use?

        Pascal took Dawson completely out of his comfort zone and made him fight a fight that he was not accustomed too. Made him hesitant of throwing and punished him with combination's here and there to keep him honest. It happens in boxing. Chad simply never faced anyone with that style before. Pascal fought a beautiful fight in that he never gave Chad much to work with. Sure pascal was sloppy in spots, but the damage was done because he had Chad already thinking too much instead of reacting.

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          #14
          Originally posted by deanrw View Post
          Pavlik also did not have it against Hopkins. That was the worst he ever looked. Was it because he did not bring it or was it because Hopkins took away the tools he could use?
          Pavlik's a middleweight, added the fact that Pavliks style did not match up well against Hopkins. And you get Pavliks first loss and in embarrassing fashion.

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            #15
            People say Chad had a bad night because he was hesitant and didnt throw enough punches. Fighters don't just become hesitant because of nothing...Pascal was in there throwing bombs, and bringing the heat to Dawson. He made Dawson hesitant and reluctant to let his hands go. The dude was going in and out but leaving bombs in between. Dawson to me seemed surprised and reluctant to engage. He doesn't appear to be the type of fighter who engages in a war which is something that pascal took advantage of and exploited. Pascal was fast and explosive...
            I thought the scene was going to give Pascal his props after I saw the fight, but it seems as if everyone is making up excuses for Dawson instead of recognizing that he got beat clearly.

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              #16
              Originally posted by IlostMyAccount View Post
              Pavlik's a middleweight, added the fact that Pavliks style did not match up well against Hopkins. And you get Pavliks first loss and in embarrassing fashion.

              Exactly what I am saying. Pascal took Chad out of his comfort zone also and made him fight a fight he was not comfortable with. Pascal fought a very smart fight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                Exactly what I am saying. Pascal took Chad out of his comfort zone also and made him fight a fight he was not comfortable with. Pascal fought a very smart fight.
                He also fooled with Chad before the fight, Pascal made it out to be like Pascal was going to do the chasing of the chicken. But really it was Pascal who the boxing style of a chicken. Pascal wasn't the pressure fighter in this fight.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dro View Post
                  People say Chad had a bad night because he was hesitant and didnt throw enough punches. Fighters don't just become hesitant because of nothing...Pascal was in there throwing bombs, and bringing the heat to Dawson. He made Dawson hesitant and reluctant to let his hands go. The dude was going in and out but leaving bombs in between. Dawson to me seemed surprised and reluctant to engage. He doesn't appear to be the type of fighter who engages in a war which is something that pascal took advantage of and exploited. Pascal was fast and explosive...
                  I thought the scene was going to give Pascal his props after I saw the fight, but it seems as if everyone is making up excuses for Dawson instead of recognizing that he got beat clearly.
                  You took the words right out of my mouth.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by IlostMyAccount View Post
                    He also fooled with Chad before the fight, Pascal made it out to be like Pascal was going to do the chasing of the chicken. But really it was Pascal who the boxing style of a chicken. Pascal wasn't the pressure fighter in this fight.
                    Yes but when Pascal did engage him, it made Chad look like a rag doll in there. Pascal refused to give Chad what he wanted. He gave him different looks in there. It is not necessarily what Chad didn't do, but what pascal did.

                    Why should he go straight to chad like Johnson did? that would play into Chad's style.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dro View Post
                      People say Chad had a bad night because he was hesitant and didnt throw enough punches. Fighters don't just become hesitant because of nothing...Pascal was in there throwing bombs, and bringing the heat to Dawson. He made Dawson hesitant and reluctant to let his hands go. The dude was going in and out but leaving bombs in between. Dawson to me seemed surprised and reluctant to engage. He doesn't appear to be the type of fighter who engages in a war which is something that pascal took advantage of and exploited. Pascal was fast and explosive...
                      I thought the scene was going to give Pascal his props after I saw the fight, but it seems as if everyone is making up excuses for Dawson instead of recognizing that he got beat clearly.
                      Great post
                      Pascal deserves a lot more credit for his perfomance against Dawson, i don't understand the hate... I have Pascal winning the rematch, Dawson will not become a warrior in less than a year so he just can't beat Pascal in those conditions...

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