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    #11
    When you say steroids, you give the impression that all they do is make you bigger.

    What you are not realizing is there there are a bunch of other performance enhancing drugs that increase enduance, increase adrenaline so you don't feel as much pain, make your eyesight better, so you have better hand-eye coordination, and make you recover from workouts faster.

    Someone taking all of Conte's Balco drugs is going to get more than just bigger and stronger, they are going to become a better athlete. Notice that I said better athlete, not better boxer, baseball player, etc because in the case of DLH vargas, DLH had the better technique throughout the fight and wore down Vargas.

    If a boxer who is even with another starts taking all these drugs, many of which have very little side effects (unlike the steroids of the 80s) he will have a clear advantage in the fight, but unlike something like Track or swimming, there is more too it than just being faster than the other person in boxing. So you have to look at the big picture.

    There is an article in outdoors ****zine about a 40 year old guy that started taking these drugs to see the effects and not to compete directly and he talks about the improvements that he makes and how tempting it must be for world class athelets to use and abuse them. I will post a link to it later if I can find it.

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      #12
      Originally posted by bigdlb12
      thanks man that makes sense now, I guess RH will be Ricki Hatton huh
      ?

      Hope not, I thought that when I saw the initials!

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        #13
        rh is richard hall he failed at the same time as roy.

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          #14
          Originally posted by cmason
          rh is richard hall he failed at the same time as roy.
          thank you for clearing that up

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            #15
            Originally posted by tri4ben2
            When you say steroids, you give the impression that all they do is make you bigger.

            What you are not realizing is there there are a bunch of other performance enhancing drugs that increase enduance, increase adrenaline so you don't feel as much pain, make your eyesight better, so you have better hand-eye coordination, and make you recover from workouts faster.

            Someone taking all of Conte's Balco drugs is going to get more than just bigger and stronger, they are going to become a better athlete. Notice that I said better athlete, not better boxer, baseball player, etc because in the case of DLH vargas, DLH had the better technique throughout the fight and wore down Vargas.

            If a boxer who is even with another starts taking all these drugs, many of which have very little side effects (unlike the steroids of the 80s) he will have a clear advantage in the fight, but unlike something like Track or swimming, there is more too it than just being faster than the other person in boxing. So you have to look at the big picture.

            There is an article in outdoors ****zine about a 40 year old guy that started taking these drugs to see the effects and not to compete directly and he talks about the improvements that he makes and how tempting it must be for world class athelets to use and abuse them. I will post a link to it later if I can find it.
            well thanks for making that much more understandable

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              #16
              No problem, I guess.

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                #17
                I wonder if someone can clear this up for me but I thought RJJ was just taking ripped fuel or something of the like and not roids. I remember reading RJJ saying that himself.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bigdlb12
                  SEVERAL BOXERS HAVE TAKEN A “CYCLE” OF ‘ROIDS!


                  Long before they were testing for Steroids at all, guys were using them. I know of roughly a dozen boxers from a junior lightweight to heavyweights that took Steroids, and or Human Growth Hormone. With initials close to, or resembling R.R., J.G., M.T., E.H., R.H., L.L., R.J., V.K., T.M., R.W., S.M., the list of those willing to do almost anything to enhance their ring performance, it is vast. That being said, are we as Americans at a point and time where we accept cheating and those who do so by looking the other way? That appears to be the case!

                  If a boxewr is taking roids then that must mean he's not that good to begin with. Like Teddfy Atlas says "80% of this is mental" and if someone feels the only way they can get ahead is by taking roids then there already doubting themselves

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jose
                    If a boxewr is taking roids then that must mean he's not that good to begin with. Like Teddfy Atlas says "80% of this is mental" and if someone feels the only way they can get ahead is by taking roids then there already doubting themselves

                    if u already think u can't win without the juice, you'll probably still lose with the juice. it doesn't give users confidence, or technique, it can't stop you from being outboxed

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                      #20
                      Well..
                      I guess I'll be one of the few great boxers of the new age who don't use Roids...

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