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    #61
    Originally posted by dorruel2.0 View Post
    I dont know if I even have 50K, i never bet. Plus i htink Juanma is going to win the fight, so why in the hell would i bet against him.
    And Juanma IS in his prime, stop lining up excuses if he loses.
    Juanma aint in his prime. a fighter is in his prime hen he puts it together phisically and mentally and starts displaying it against elite competition.

    Juanma have done neither of those things.

    If he loses to Marquez is because Marquez is a great fighter, nothing else should be said.

    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    He is not shot, and not just basing it off the Izzy fight either. I saw his fight at 126 prior to Izzy at 126 against a fighter I think his name was Mendoza. Granted Mendoza is not a good fighter. Rafa looked a little rusty in that fight but showed some sharp punching as well. I didn't see any evidence of being shot. And, against Izzy he looked sharp with beautiful technique. I did not see any evidence of being shot. What evidence did you see?

    He is not shot, Izzy is shot. That is how a shot fighter looks. Rafa is not shot. Now Rafa is not in his prime either. Rafa is at the tail end of his career but he is not shot.

    Again I have never seen Rafa and say wow this guy is absolutely done. NEVER. He has always showed sharpness and good technique. Everybody just assumed he is shot cuz of the wars with Izzy. But, I don't see maybe you can explain it to me. I agree he is not in his prime and at the tail end of his career but that does not equal shot.
    Great Post.

    Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
    what a ridiculous statement,,,juanma isn't in his prime...what???....the man is 27,he became a champ over two years ago,made a couple of title defenses,like 5,has become a 2 division champ,will be making his third defense i believe,,and that is not in your prime??if he was 22,23 ok,but he's 27 already,he's IN HIS PRIME...marquez is not,he's on his way out
    Juanma aint in his prime. a fighter is in his prime hen he puts it together phisically and mentally and starts displaying it against elite competition.

    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    I'll put 500,000 points on Marquez to last more than 5 rounds. Do we have a bet?
    300K tha Juanma wins, 200K extra if it is via KO and 100K exta iff it is on 5 or less. What you say????

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      #62
      Wouldn't shock me at all to see him stop Lopez inside 8.

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        #63
        Marquez is gonna KO this overrated clown, I wanted Gamboa to do it but the old Mexican veteran HOF'mer shall add one last feather to his decorated cap

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          #64
          This will be a great fight, we will find out what Juanma is made of. I see him getting the better of Rafael in the first few rounds, but Rafael will time him and knock him out in the middle rounds.

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            #65
            This is going to be a hell of a fight, can't wait!!!!!!!!!

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              #66
              Originally posted by El C@cique@PR View Post
              300K tha Juanma wins, 200K extra if it is via KO and 100K exta iff it is on 5 or less. What you say????
              How about just 100k that Marquez goes more than 5 rounds? You seem so sure, put your money where your mouth is.

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                #67
                Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
                yes he did fight like a shot fighter after second fight with vazquez,,,,in third fight he looked good only because vazquez was also all beat up,then his first fight at featherweight he looked slow,awful,then fourth with vazquez,vazquez was all cut,which is why marquez won,...he's shot man,he is 35,all beat up,in other words all set up for lopez...by the way,like you say it doesn't make you a shot fighter when you lose,but it's the way you lose,,even in the fight he won,he took a lot of punishment
                Which fight is that? He has 2 wins in a row and both wins were third round knockout. He is not shot. Don't confuse between being passed prime or at the tail end of his career as being shot. There is a difference.

                He didn't look slow or awful after the third fight with Izzy when he fought Mendoza at 126 he looked a little rusty but didn't look slow and awful. And, you said is the way he lost. The third fight was a fight that could of gone either way. Each of the first 3 fights with Izzy has been competitive.

                If you going by the way you lose then basically Rafa was shot before fighting Tim Austin. Since he was more competitive after the 2nd fight with Izzy then he was with his first 2 losses.

                Maybe cuz I have followed Rafa for years now I can tell that he is passed his prime and I can tell that he is at the tail end of his career that I know he is not shot. Or maybe you just saying that in case Juanma wins is a way to not give credit to Juanma in saying Rafa is shot. But, the point is Rafa is not shot.

                LOL @ he took a lot of punishment in 2 third round KO victories.

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                  #68
                  I aint counting Rafa out in this fight, but Lopez gets nothing from me until he fights Caballero. He's gonna try to go after John because he's another old, vulnerable fighter. But he'll have to beat Caballero to get him because they got the same manager. Try to explain this to Ch@mp and he'll let it go through one ear and out the other.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by _original_ View Post
                    Marquez is gonna KO this overrated clown, I wanted Gamboa to do it but the old Mexican veteran HOF'mer shall add one last feather to his decorated cap
                    Juanma is an overrated clown? Then what does that make Gamboa?

                    What is Gamboa best win again?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ballgamessuck View Post
                      This will be a great fight, we will find out what Juanma is made of. I see him getting the better of Rafael in the first few rounds, but Rafael will time him and knock him out in the middle rounds.
                      I already found out what Juanma was made of in the Mtwaga fight and what he has done after.

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