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    What a ****ing disgrace, Margo hasn't done nothing to deserve a ranking at 154 for a title. Pac will get another come foward fighter that complements his style. I thought that the Pac team didn't want to fight Foreman cause of his height and natural weight. The hypocrecy is so blatant

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      An interesting article. Is Bob Arum The Problem?

      This was posted from another site.

      We still have no official word on the next Manny Pacquiao fight. The window of exclusivity for negotiating with Floyd Mayweather went bye-bye last Friday and now Top Rank has moved on to other potential opponents. It's clear Team Mayweather doesn't want to fight this year, but now some media members are saying the same thing about Top Rank's Bob Arum, and that he never wanted the fight this year either. David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press says Arum never negotiated in good faith:

      Arum relayed through HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg the terms he would find acceptable for making the fight. You can bet they were favorable terms for Pacquiao, which is to say terms Mayweather very well might find onerous. They probably included a 50-50 split in money, or something close to it. Arum steadfastly refused to specify that. Second, Greenburg relayed those terms to the Mayweather camp, which never responded to them. Arum might as well have called me to relay the terms. I have all the same phone numbers and could’ve had the same conversations -- or lack thereof.

      Mayo says that's not a negotiation as Arum calling it:

      My 30-year-old Webster’s New World Dictionary -- the one that one of my dogs tore the cover off of years ago -- defines negotiate as “to confer, bargain, or discuss with a view to reaching a settlement.” Arum got a lot of mileage with the media in saying Manny Pacquiao had agreed to terms. Sending a message through an intermediary who isn’t empowered to respond or counteroffer doesn’t qualify. And that Greenburg converses often with the Mayweather camp means absolutely nothing.

      He says Arum's always wanted a Pacquiao-Antonio Margarito or Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto fight:

      Failing that, what Arum planned all along was to have two of his own fighters face each other on Nov. 13 -- Pacquiao against either Miguel Cotto or Antonio Margarito -- which seems the near-certain resolution now. That keeps all the money in house, gets another probable win for Pacquiao, and keeps him from being exposed to Mayweather for a few more months, if at all.

      Mayo said Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe predicted this is exactly what would go down back at the start of the year.

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        I would like to see what Roach has to say about this.

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          Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
          What a ****ing disgrace, Margo hasn't done nothing to deserve a ranking at 154 for a title. Pac will get another come foward fighter that complements his style. I thought that the Pac team didn't want to fight Foreman cause of his height and natural weight. The hypocrecy is so blatant
          yeah like pac deserved the belts from 140,147,and now going for 154 belt people for get that pac has not done **** at those weights but beat past prim,shot,and weight drain fighters. pac has not dominated any weight class since 135 and thats debatable.this has become a circus act a joke the i can get as many titles game its a ****ing joke.

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            Originally posted by pheentosh View Post
            This was posted from another site.

            We still have no official word on the next Manny Pacquiao fight. The window of exclusivity for negotiating with Floyd Mayweather went bye-bye last Friday and now Top Rank has moved on to other potential opponents. It's clear Team Mayweather doesn't want to fight this year, but now some media members are saying the same thing about Top Rank's Bob Arum, and that he never wanted the fight this year either. David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press says Arum never negotiated in good faith:

            Arum relayed through HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg the terms he would find acceptable for making the fight. You can bet they were favorable terms for Pacquiao, which is to say terms Mayweather very well might find onerous. They probably included a 50-50 split in money, or something close to it. Arum steadfastly refused to specify that. Second, Greenburg relayed those terms to the Mayweather camp, which never responded to them. Arum might as well have called me to relay the terms. I have all the same phone numbers and could’ve had the same conversations -- or lack thereof.

            Mayo says that's not a negotiation as Arum calling it:

            My 30-year-old Webster’s New World Dictionary -- the one that one of my dogs tore the cover off of years ago -- defines negotiate as “to confer, bargain, or discuss with a view to reaching a settlement.” Arum got a lot of mileage with the media in saying Manny Pacquiao had agreed to terms. Sending a message through an intermediary who isn’t empowered to respond or counteroffer doesn’t qualify. And that Greenburg converses often with the Mayweather camp means absolutely nothing.

            He says Arum's always wanted a Pacquiao-Antonio Margarito or Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto fight:

            Failing that, what Arum planned all along was to have two of his own fighters face each other on Nov. 13 -- Pacquiao against either Miguel Cotto or Antonio Margarito -- which seems the near-certain resolution now. That keeps all the money in house, gets another probable win for Pacquiao, and keeps him from being exposed to Mayweather for a few more months, if at all.

            Mayo said Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe predicted this is exactly what would go down back at the start of the year.
            This is a VERY INTERESTING post, and David Mayo has come to pretty much the same conclusion I have.....

            SUCKERS

            You have all been played by Bob Arum.

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              Boycott ppv

              Boxing fans the world over should send Bob Arum a clear message to stop putting on these BS fights by boycotting the PPV. If people don't buy the PPV fight, and he can't cover the guarranteed money, he'll be forced to put on fights that boxing fans really want to see. I am tired of watching Top Rank fighters fighting each other. If you agree pass the word on BOYCOTT THE FIGHT, DO NOT BUY BOB ARUM'S PPV!

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                Originally posted by P4P305 View Post
                Where's my buddy, The Punching bag?
                HE'S ON VACATION!!! PUNKING OUT,
                TIRES A BOY out!!!

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                  Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3 View Post
                  this was the plan all along. **** arum
                  TELL US, SB 3, why BOY continues to PUNK OUT????

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                    Originally posted by imisupu View Post
                    If this is true will somebody anybody please explain to me how Margarito deserves this fight over Paul Williams, Tim Bradley, Andre Berto, hell even Shane Mosley which is a big reach I know fella's but I'm just saying Margarito please what did he do to deserve this fight besides get caught cheating, Knocked out and suspended poor Paul Williams can't get a big fight and all he do is win, hell he beat Margarito. Boxing is DONE!!!!! They killing themselves!
                    Shane is booked to fight Mora already..HBO is trying to put Williams vs Martinez II..Berto and Bradley are not at the level to be pushed for a major PPV fight with anybody..No big names or anything on their resumes...come on now.

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