New Article Posted On Floyd Mayweather's Website: "The Way It Went"

[Heru]

Negotiations can fail. One of those reasons is 1 side rejecting the other's proposal.

Of course negotiations can fail, but it's not a negotiation until the other party engages and Mayweather's camp never actually engaged. If you get no response in return, then you assume it's a rejection.

You are 100% correct. It takes 2 parties to negotiate.

And instead of sending a counter-proposal, Mayweather announces he wants to spend more time with family, and not fight this year. Thus, refusing to negotiate.



So who refused to negotiate again? It obviously wasn't Pacquiao's side. They sent a proposal to get the ball rolling.

I'm not putting the blame on anyone. Arum sent a proposal that Mayweather had already publicly rejected beforehand and acted as if he was in negotiations.

Mayweather wants to stay on vacation and doesn't want to fight and Arum just lead all of y'all on a wild goose chase for 2 months talking about negotiations that never actually took place. How about this? **** both of them (and Manny and his team if they were in on it) for wasting peoples time, they are both self serving, money grubbing, attention whoring *******s.

[garpjr1188]

Emphasis,

Please note the striking similarities b/w what David Mayo writes...amnd what I wrote a few days ago. And then read between the lines.

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A contact within the boxing media shared his understanding of what happened and why the negotiations failed. And there's blame to spread on both sides.

First of all, there is a misunderstanding from the press conference. ARUM said that 'there was no message' from Team Mayweather. Many people (myself included) took this to mean that Team mayweather never responded. That was not the case. There was a back-n-forth dialogue between the camps. So, whether Arum misspoke, or was misunderstood, let's just establish that there was an exchange and a somewhat real negotiation going on.

The skinny: Back in December, the last deal that was on the table was the 14 day cutoff and 50/50 purse split. Pac was cool with 50/50, not cool with 14 days, and Pac walked away. We all know that.

Now, in February (2/15/10 to be exact), Floyd announced that the 14day, 50/50 deal was off the table. He announced that to David Mayo and some other media. Floyd went on to fight Shane using random drug testing.



"I gave him a chance, up to 14 days out. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can come get us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That's what it is."



"[If the Mosley-Mayweather pay-per-view does better than Pacquiao-Clottey], instead of 20 or 25 [million dollars], he may have to drop to 15, or 17. And you know me, they may have to throw that extra 5 or 10 on mine, and we can rock and roll. Take it or leave it."



So, shortly after the May/Moz fight, Pac announced that he was willing to do 14 days, and that all the obstacles were now gone. I believe the Pac quote was "Now Floyd has no reason not to fight". But in the Mayweather camp, they weren't even considering the 14 day cutoff as viable anymore, because they just did true OST with Mosley - random. And outsold Pac yet again.

Additionally (and to my surprise) Floyd did ask for a higher revenue split based on outselling Pac in pretty much all their fights. So, when Koncz said Floyd asked for a 60/40 split, that appears to be true.

Arum and Pac have stuck to their guns on the 14 day, 50/50 tip. They did send a proposal to Floyd. That was 14 day, 50/50. That contract is essentially laughable to Team Mayweather.

The reason Bob Arum is not specifying what “the terms” are is because Team Pac is essentially offering the same terms that they declined six months ago. Not good from a negotiation standpoint. Not ideal from a PR standpoint.

The reason Arum seems so conciliatory towards Floyd is because he got direct feedback from Ross about his approach. Arum has called Mayweather a coward, has insulted Richard in the media (saying that RS doesn’t have boxing knowledge to understand, etc) and has insulted Oscar and HBO executives as well. Just overall surly.

Mayweather fans: Floyd and Team May have not been responsive or very communicative. They have taken a hard line . Basically a “**** Arum” approach. They feel they are in the driver’s seat, and they want their terms. Full random testing, and the higher revenue share. Team May shares the blame for not pushing hard in negotiations. Their stance is “take it or leave it”. Floyd made $65 million in the past ten months. He isn’t pressed.
Plus, Floyd doesn’t want to give one extra dime to Arum, who has been insulting him in the media for a year straight.

Pacquiao fans: Manny and Bob were deceptive in negotiations. They came back to the offer from last year when they knew that offer was no longer valid or acceptable. It also begs the question: If 14 days and 50/50 is a great deal now, what made it such an unacceptable deal six months ago? Were you dealing in good faith? Team Pac must be faulted for not accepting the realities of the revenue and PPV history, and not accepting 43%, 45% or 48%.
Roach said “we have agreed to all Mayweather’s terms. Many will take ANY test to get Floyd in the ring”. But then in the contract, they put the 14 day cutoff.

Further, Arum is deceptive to the public – speaking only half-truths. He gives tons of detail on the trivialities, and you haven’t heard anything about contract specifics.


So, that is what I have been told. It sounds reasonable to me. Nobody is scared of anybody. It’s a hard line negotiation by two sides that hate each other and neither wants to budge. If Pac wants the fight, why not make a concession? If May wants the fight, why not negotiate harder?

My personal feeling? If Arum was not involved, things would go better. Everything that Arum does just feels slimy and shady. Arum knows that Haymon doesn't play the media game, and Bob sets up one-sided press conferences. And has been talking to the media for weeks.

Discuss. Don’t flame.

yes obviously both camps have fault on what happened, but..

it seems to me that the mayweather camp was not really interested in making the fight..they did not respond or made a counter-offer and just kept silent..there is no excuse for that..

given that mayweather may no longer accept the offer that they had last year, can you really blame the pacquiao camp for offering the same thing? that is just their bargaining point..you cant offer anything higher than that to start with or you're loosing already on your negotiation/haggling..

again, pretty boy's camp should just have made a counter-offer to negotiate..instead of keeping silent or saying not interested in fighting, taking a vacation...factors of who'll get the bigger split and the random blood testing became irrelevant if you dont make a counter-offer...

not being biased here but mayweather does not really want it to happen, for now...if ever..

[Pacquiao'd]

yes obviously both camps have fault on what happened, but..

it seems to me that the mayweather camp was not really interested in making the fight..they did not respond or made a counter-offer and just kept silent..there is no excuse for that..

given that mayweather may no longer accept the offer that they had last year, can you really blame the pacquiao camp for offering the same thing? that is just their bargaining point..you cant offer anything higher than that to start with or you're loosing already on your negotiation/haggling..

again, pretty boy's camp should just have made a counter-offer to negotiate..instead of keeping silent or saying not interested in fighting, taking a vacation...factors of who'll get the bigger split and the random blood testing became irrelevant if you dont make a counter-offer...

not being biased here but mayweather does not really want it to happen, for now...if ever..

the fact that they were silent, says everything. it says, "WE ARENT INTERESTED" its not rocket science

[Pocket Dogs!]

After reading all these articles and all the bull**** that came from both sides, everything boils down to one thing: Manny and Floyd both never wanted to fight each other. If one of them truly, and I mean truly wanted to fight the other, one of them would have at least sacrificed something.

[ROID RAGE 01]

the fact that they were silent, says everything. it says, "WE ARENT INTERESTED" its not rocket science

youre a f ucking moron!!!

[Castor_Troy]

Nobody gives credit to Natanielz because he's from the Philippines right? and a Pac hugger?




Mayo is from Michigan and a Floyd Hugger... so we believe him?

[garpjr1188]

the fact that they were silent, says everything. it says, "WE ARENT INTERESTED" its not rocket science

LOL!!!! is that your take? so now it boils down to not interested..ok, so yeah he's taking a vacation then..i will say no more, lol..

[neoz]

Who the f#ck cares what chicken sh#t says.
Pacman is an easy fight yet chicken **** still would'nt accept 50/50 and 14 day cut off.
Need to cancel my november holidays

[Steven Adams]

fail thread

Gayweather could sign the fight but instead he hide under his bed!

NEXT!!!!!!!!!

how do you say your name?


'Cungle' like as 'jungle'

or 'cung lee'?

[myCoCainE]

the fact that they were silent, says everything. it says, "WE ARENT INTERESTED" its not rocket science

I thought they were silent because they were decent men and respects the gag order.