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    #41
    It's a combination of two things.

    1. Pac is on roids
    2. Cotto was a walking skeleton due to the rehydration clause.

    Those teh answers you were looking for?

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      #42
      Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
      Oh, pls. by the 2nd time Pac fought Marquez he was already overdue from the 130lbs weight division, he was already having a hard time making weight. Note: after that fight he move to the next weight class which was 135lbs.
      How does that explain being able to take a punch from a guy at 147 like nothing?If he was that weight drained he would have gotten drop by marquez and Morales.When he fought at lower then 126 he was getting dropped then later he was getting rocked alot.A fighter taking all that punishment,his v punch resistance is suppose to reduce not increase especially when you consider the vact that he is fighting heavier fighters then he`s use to.Look at Duran when has a t light weight he had an Iron chin ,when he got to junior middleweight he got knock out in 2 rounds by Tommy Hearns.
      Last edited by Imhotep; 07-13-2010, 02:54 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Walterson View Post
        Just watched the fight again, Pacquaio has one hell of a chin... but I still don't get how he was bruised up all over and not stunned at least once.

        Same thing in the Clottey fight, he came out bruised yet was not deterred by Joshua's punches.

        That's one sturdy chin but I still don't get how he's able to "walk through" such punches, get bruised all over yet still not be deterred from fighting on.
        Its Called PED's, you know that whole Pacquiao I dont want to take blood tests thing??!!

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          #44
          Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
          It's about timing. Marquez is one of the great counter punchers in the game. Cotto is not. Like others say, the ones you don't see coming hurt the most. When Marquez rocked Pac, it was when Pac was caught off balance or coming in from one of his own punches, etc. Pac knew exactly when Cotto was throwing his punches, it wasn't a difficult puzzle to figure out.

          Also, besides Cotto's jab in the first couple rounds and a couple nicely landed uppercuts, cotto didn't really throw anything that hard. Remember the round when Pac was on the ropes telling cotto to hit him? Cotto was half-assing those punches, he didn't commit 100% to those shots, I don't know why he did that maybe because he didn't want to gas later in the fight but come to think of it, he also did the same **** against Clottey - didn't have a lot of steam on his shots.
          Just because a fighter counters another fighter it doesnt mean a fighter does`nt see the punch coming,he`s just in a position where he can`t avoid the counter.Pac could see Marquez counter coming.And Morales was leading with alot of punches and it was clearly hurting Pac.

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            #45
            Originally posted by featherFist View Post
            Good points! For one, I do know that Filipinos discipline (100% of Pinoys who grew up in their homeland) of their children would require a multitude of hitting (fear is a great motivator) as form of discipline not by hand but by "belts, belt buckles, 2x4 woods, machetes, crow bars, hazing paddles, and whatnot". Their discipline might be questionable for us who do not fully understand their culture but, statistics show that their children are one of the most disciplined if not the most discplined in the world or in our schools. Meaning to say, their discipline might be unorthodox but it sure works!Basically, if you grew up in the Philippines 100%, and belong to the poorest of the poor families, chances are you have already endured "hell" when you are growing up. Getting hit and hurt by these stuff everyday would make you otherwise immune to all these physical form of punishments for just a kid growing up. And as time goes, your pain threshold will improve. I am almost certain that Filipino kids (or 3rd world families who employ this kind of discipline through physical punishment) can tolerate pain by a mile than those kids who grew up in countries where child laws are practiced and followed.

            All of the above are from what my understanding of their culture came about since I knew a lot of Filipinos from where I work. They might be lying, as I see that discipline thru the most hellish of physical punishments is unreal. But, I have seen their kids and I couldn't find something to pick on them. It's odd to me but they must be doing something right! Right?

            Just a thought!
            Tell em about how circumcision works in the Philippines. LOL. My friend was circumcised with a bolo knife jumping in the river after.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Imhotep View Post
              How does that explain being able to take a punch from a guy at 147 like nothing?If he was that weight drained he would have gotten drop by marquez and Morales.When he fought at lower then 126 he was getting dropped then later he was getting rocked alot.A fighter taking all that punishment,his v punch resistance is suppose to reduce not increase especially when you consider the vact that he is fighting heavier fighters then he`s use to.Look at Duran when has a t light weight he had an Iron chin ,when he got to junior middleweight he got knock out in 2 rounds by Tommy Hearns.
              Explain Cotto being rocked at 140 by no names and being able to take Mosely, Margarito... Sometimes higher weights are better for you. But why I am I telling you this, you are obvioulsy one of the village idiots along with MIC and the decent *****s know that they are outnumbered by the idiots too.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Imhotep View Post
                Just because a fighter counters another fighter it doesnt mean a fighter does`nt see the punch coming,he`s just in a position where he can`t avoid the counter.Pac could see Marquez counter coming.And Morales was leading with alot of punches and it was clearly hurting Pac.
                Nein! Watch the Pacquiao knock downs of Cotto. Were those devastating punches by Pac? Nope, they were perfectly timed shots and cotto didn't see them coming. Both of them.

                Then, watch the 2nd marquez fight when Pac was rocked at the very end of the 2nd round. That was timing.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Imhotep View Post
                  Can you explain to me how Marquez who fought Pac 4 divisions below welter is able to hit harder then Cotto at Welter?I want to laugh at the *******ness.


                  To the thread starter:when you move up in weight the fighters punches are stronger cause a fighter is not use to getting hit by fighters of a higher weight class even if the fighter is a light puncher so the only explanation i got for Pac is that he`s on something that numbs him or significantly reduces the pain of a punch.
                  Have you ever boxed? From experience, the punches you don't see coming, are the ones that hurt/shock you. My answer for the OP's question, is a combination of:

                  1. Pac no longer having the drain himself
                  2. Pac being able to see the naturally slower punches of these bigger guys
                  3. Pac's pain tolerance training, and probably his physical abuse discipline growing up as a child. I know this is true, I am Filipino and almost all of my cousins/family in the Philippines go through this.
                  Last edited by boxingsmash69; 07-13-2010, 03:54 PM.

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                    #49
                    It's because he doesn't have to dehydrate himself to make weight. Dehydration decreases the amount of cerebrospinal fluid, which acts as a cushion for the brain. That is why fighters who fight at a weight that is close to their walk-around weight (like Pacquiao and Mayweather) are often harder to KO than the "bigger" fighters who have have a hard time making weight.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Alibata View Post
                      Explain Cotto being rocked at 140 by no names and being able to take Mosely, Margarito... Sometimes higher weights are better for you. But why I am I telling you this, you are obvioulsy one of the village idiots along with MIC and the decent *****s know that they are outnumbered by the idiots too.
                      Damn.. Cotto must be on something!

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