Is there a significant benefit for boxers to roid up 14 days before a fight?

[AFighter4U]

This is hilarious.

Please provide proof that boxers only use EPO to train harder.

Second, please define "a few days" for Mosley. Specifically.

The article didn't specify exactly how many days. The fact is that Shane STOPPED TAKING THEM A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT AS ADVISED.

He didn't take them UP TO THE FIGHT NIGHT. That fact is clear.

[IMDAZED]

The article didn't specify exactly how many days. The fact is that Shane STOPPED TAKING THEM A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT AS ADVISED.

He didn't take them UP TO THE FIGHT NIGHT. That fact is clear.

Right. It's also clear he used them within the 14 days.

[Vadrigar.]

Not necessarily, D33P. Some steroids yes, not all PEDs.

If you believe Freddie Roach's statement then heavy training doesn't overlap with the cut off date.

If you believe mannys statement then there is an overlap with the cut off date.

If he's using PED's that depend on heavy training, the unlimited cut off is unnecessary. (provided Freddie Roach's statement is true)

If you assume he's using any kind of PED's, than the unlimited cut of is necessary regardless of the time frame in which heavy training takes place.

I think it's safe to be su****ious of any PED usage. So Floyd is justified.

[IMDAZED]

Victor Conte: So let’s back up, hypothetically, okay, to Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather when they were signing or negotiating for their fight, or in the case of the Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight.

If somebody were advising them, they could have used EPO throughout for two weeks, if someone were advising them on how to do it, just like the cyclists do, and they could have previously extracted some of these red blood cells and put them in the refridgerator.

Okay? So then, five weeks out from the fight, coming in, they can’t use EPO, because they’re being randomly tested and that might be discovered even though the EPO only stays within your system for a day.

But you can re-infuse your own red blood cells. And if you are shown how to re-infuse your red blood cells, they can’t detect that.

But they can detect the percentage increase, correct?

But they can detect the percentage, exactly.
If you’re re-infusing the blood and that percentage starts to drop down, you know, as you’re preparing and training for the fight, then you can just re-infuse some of their previously withdrawn red blood cells by intravenous injection.

They can re-infuse that and they can keep it at a steady level of 49 percent all the way up to the fight. So now, that’s all undetectable by USADA.

[Jack3d]

Yes it is. Period.

No it's not.

The end result is the same. Which is more RBC's < More Oxygen in the blood < Better Performance


But it doesn't take effect at the same rate and it's not done the same way.

[IMDAZED]

If you believe Freddie Roach's statement then heavy training doesn't overlap with the cut off date.

If you believe mannys statement then there is an overlap with the cut off date.

If he's using PED's that depend on heavy training, the unlimited cut off is unnecessary. (provided Freddie Roach's statement is true)

If you assume he's using any kind of PED's, than the unlimited cut of is necessary regardless of the time frame in which heavy training takes place.

I think it's safe to be su****ious of any PED usage. So Floyd is justified.

No one should ask for a cutoff time. That in and of itself is su****ious.

[AFighter4U]

To Afighter4u: Are you still claiming that there's no significant benefit by using PED's in the 14days up to a fight?

Based on the above article, Mosley stopped taking the PEDs a few days before the fight. I can't say exactly how many days since the artcle doesn't mention it, but the fact is he didn't take it up to the fight night.

And if you add the fact that according to conte, you need at least 14 days of intense training to get the results, you then need 14 days plus a few days between the last day of intense training and the day of the fight.

So to get the desired results, you need more than 14 days.

[Vadrigar.]

No one should ask for a cutoff time. That in and of itself is su****ious.

Unless a high likelihood of injury is proven without a cut off date.

[IMDAZED]

Based on the above article, Mosley stopped taking the PEDs a few days before the fight. I can't say exactly how many days since the artcle doesn't mention it, but the fact is he didn't take it up to the fight night.

And if you add the fact that according to conte, you need at least 14 days of intense training to get the results, you then need 14 days plus a few days between the last day of intense training and the day of the fight.

So to get the desired results, you need more than 14 days.

See what I copied and pasted above from Conte.

Add that to what I copied and pasted from Conte before.

Then burn down this thread.

[AFighter4U]

Right. It's also clear he used them within the 14 days.

Within and BEYOND 14 days to get his desired results. Apparently he did cuz he won via UD over dela hoya.