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    #71
    Originally posted by Frighteous View Post
    oscar and hatton are both pretty weak opponents, and also floyd's leftovers, compared to floyd and pac so throw them out the window.

    all you got is cotto.

    and that cotto was marg ravaged.

    so a freshly defeated cotto.
    excuses .. excuses..

    Oscar: Never beaten (embarrassed) this bad by anyone.
    Hatton: Never beaten this bad by anyone.
    Cotto: Never beaten this bad by anyone (atleast without plaster)
    Clottey: Never beaten this bad by anyone.

    all by a smaller man. LOL

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      #72
      Originally posted by T.I. View Post
      excuses .. excuses..

      Oscar: Never beaten (embarrassed) this bad by anyone.
      Hatton: Never beaten this bad by anyone.
      Cotto: Never beaten this bad by anyone (atleast without plaster)
      Clottey: Never beaten this bad by anyone.

      all by a smaller man. LOL


      Excuses...


      I take it you not only have double standards(okay to make excuses but not for everyone else), but you haven't watched Hopkins-Oscar either.

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        #73
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
        Excuses...


        I take it you not only have double standards(okay to make excuses but not for everyone else), but you haven't watched Hopkins-Oscar either.
        How so? You're assuming I haven't watching BHop vs Oscar on what basis? What does that have to do with anything? Oscar was embarrassed by the little filipino and nothing you say or do can rewrite history..

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          #74
          Originally posted by T.I. View Post
          How so? You're assuming I haven't watching BHop vs Oscar on what basis? What does that have to do with anything? Oscar was embarrassed by the little filipino and nothing you say or do can rewrite history..

          Getting put down with a body shot as your first knock out loss. Is much worse than being obviously weight drained, under weight, and needing an IV to rehydrate.

          Sorry. I know your nuthuggery runs deep in your family blood but nothing for Oscar is worse than Hopkins putting him down with a body shot.

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            #75
            Originally posted by T.I. View Post
            How so? You're assuming I haven't watching BHop vs Oscar on what basis? What does that have to do with anything? Oscar was embarrassed by the little filipino and nothing you say or do can rewrite history..
            oscar- weight drained
            cotto- weight drained
            and pac did not put any punishment on clottey. If you watched the fight pac was ****** up not clottey.

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              #76
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
              Getting put down with a body shot as your first knock out loss. Is much worse than being obviously weight drained, under weight, and needing an IV to rehydrate.

              Sorry. I know your nuthuggery runs deep in your family blood but nothing for Oscar is worse than Hopkins putting him down with a body shot.
              Um nope. Before the B Hop vs Oscar fight, it was not crazy to think B Hop could hurt ODLH. B Hop is a big boy. Before the Manny vs Oscar fight, people looked at it as a circus matchup. People were saying ODLH would knock manny out with the jab in the first round. LOL!. The little blown up lightweight embarrassed De La Hoya. Dude QUIT to a smaller man..

              Nuthug? LOL!. I stated facts.. you are just straight up hating..

              Hate runs deep man.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Burnthrust View Post
                oscar- weight drained
                cotto- weight drained
                and pac did not put any punishment on clottey. If you watched the fight pac was ****** up not clottey.
                Welcome to the hate club.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by kadyo View Post
                  Whatever dude,who's the girl in your avatar?
                  That's Stacey Dash......

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by T.I. View Post
                    excuses .. excuses..

                    Oscar: Never beaten (embarrassed) this bad by anyone.
                    Hatton: Never beaten this bad by anyone.
                    Cotto: Never beaten this bad by anyone (atleast without plaster)
                    Clottey: Never beaten this bad by anyone.

                    all by a smaller man. LOL

                    If you read the post again I didn't say he doesn't have power and he can't finish. I am basically asking is his power and finishing skills overrated because many including Manny said if he had Floyd hurt like Shane did Pac would have finished him....I love to see Pac fight but nothing that I have seen in him proves to me he stops Mayweather in two rounds. I gave the Marquez example.

                    Beating Oscar to me was his career defining fight because he wasn't supposed to win that fight...Yeah Oscar might have been weight drain or what not but once you get in the ring the excuses must end.....But it watching that fight it was more about Pac's speed and relentless pressure that was too much for Oscar....Pac never dropped him even after hitting him with so man punches flush....Oscar's inability to defend himself and to land punches cause him to quit but it's not like Pac hurt Oscar cornered him and knocked him out.....

                    The Hatton knockout added to the legend....to me that was an easy one to pick....Hatton got knocked out by Floyd, got hurt several times by Lascano and he has a face first defense....If every Pacman fight was like this I won't make this post....but this was not a typical Pac fight

                    Cotto.....was another tailor-made fighter for Pac....See Cotto has taken his share of whoppins....but his desire and self belief always got him through those times....****rito beat that out of him...But once again Pacman hit him with everything but the kitchen sink for over 12 rounds.....Cotto could have continued but Bayless did the right thing....Cotto wasn't going to land anything big so that was that......

                    Clottey was a clown for fighting that style but that was a horrible fight for Manny...he didn't do anything to bring Clottey out his shell


                    Anyways the whole point is that I think Pac is a dynamic fighter but I believe his power and finishing skills are overrated....I remember back to the Larios fight....I was sure Pac would knock him out just after Vazquez had.....and it didn't happen....and I was sure he was going to knock out Barrera the second time and it didn't happen.....those were two guys who were damaged and way past their primes....and that's when I noticed it was his speed and determination were his best assets not his power

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by deliveryman View Post
                      The difference is, Manny doesn't have one-punch KO power like Mosley does. Thus, he's not going to hurt Floyd that bad with one punch.
                      The real difference is, when Shane threw 1 punches, Manny would have thrown 4.

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