Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Still Thinks Mayweather is "Scared To Fight"

[whirlwind]

if floyd accepts the 50-50 split which he should'nt because the numbers don't lie.but he he accepts but demands ramdom testing up to fight time i guaratee pac will fing another excuse. manny has destroyed this fight since day one. he knows that he can;t beat mayweather.

lol! It was a complete opposite. Floyd knows Pac could beat him that is why he put a lot of road blocks on this fight as excuses because he scared. His father was also scared for his son. lol at Floyd invented useless 2 months OST while the USADA doing it all year round in other athletes. Something is fishy here right? He could roiding right now then still comes up clean on his invented OST right?

[ThePrince]

Since you mentioned Hatton and Oscar, both of whom Pac fought, is it safe to say pac fought old shot fighters or were these quality wins by your standards?

So you dont see how Floyd's skill level, quickness, speed, defense, superior boxing skill and ring savvy will be enough for him to beat, the wild, winging punch throwing, undisciplined, off-balanced, roid'ed up, pinoy pinata?

No question De La Hoya was done when FLOYD fought him, even Freddie Roach said this which is why he and Oscar had a falling out. Roach said Oscar 'couldn't pull the trigger anymore' and he even brought in sports psychologists and other shrinks to try to get in his head and figure out what the problem was during training camp. Oscar could've won against Floyd if he had listened to Roach who was begging him to use his jab more, but as usual, Oscar fizzled out down the stretch in a big fight (see Trinidad, Hopkins). In the end, Money got a split decision against and old DLH who had only fought Ricardo 'I smoke, I drink' Mayorga in the 3 years since being KO'ed by Hopkins. He was rusty, old, shot, couldn't pull the trigger, need shrinks to get his head in the game... and Money only walked away with a split decision and then 'retired' when it was time for the mandatory rematch.

Oscar was done but still the favorite 2-1 against Pacquiao and the odds were 9-1 against Manny getting a KO or TKO. Beat both odds resoundingly, wasn't even a fight. Neither guy fought a prime Oscar but Floyd got a SD and spent the whole night curled up in a ball on the ropes, while Manny made him quit on his stool, death by a thousand left hands.

And Hatton fought Collazo at 147 before he took on Floyd and looked AWFUL, he clearly had no business in the division and Money took advantage. Pacquiao beat him at HIS (Hatton's) weight class, where he was undefeated at c. 40-0... decapitated him in the second while knocking him down 2x in the first... with Mayweather Sr and his master tactics backing Hatton up in his corner

So yeah, context.

[pbftxrs316]

I don't understand why some people are acting like this purse split has something to do with belts, or awards, other peoples opinions, or status.

It is only to do with who makes more money when they fight. Floyd wins that battle. Pacquiao could have all the belts and awards in the World, people are still not willing to spend as much money on him as they are Floyd.

this is what i'm talking about---this guy gets it---yo combo, it's so obvious isn't it? when manny threatened to walk away from the hatton fight unless he got the bigger purse and bobo arum had to come out of his own pockets to accomodate him, people didn't say ****---and floyd is crushing manny in ppv sales and has been for years, it's been proven----just like manny with cotto----cotto got maybe 35/65 with manny---had to come down to 145 and defend his belt, which was a 147 title---what the **** is that ****, and manny gets called all of these things and he's been dooping these duumb ****s for too long----onetwocombo, it's like it's pointless when these guys post on here---there's not talking logically too any of them-----they seem to think that because manny has all of these belts, he deserves the same purse split as floyd-----floyd don't want manny's belt---he don't need it-----floyd was the number 1 p4p fighter when he fought oscar, and although oscar was the champion, the title wasn't even talked about---the fight itself was talked about----oscar chose the gloves, the weight, the weight penalty, ring size, etc, and the bigger purse split, and floyd gave in, and still whooped his ass-----

but when manny doesn't do it, it's floyd's fault-----floyd is the bigger attraction, bar none---me and you to name a couple, know this----others on here who don't know ****, won't accept it----

[mrjoeblive]

I seen the fight and I didn't think Castillo won but thats just me I mean if you want to play this game I thought Marquez beat Pacquiao twice so.......

and also you keep saying Floyd has no answers for Pacquiao i think its a straight right hand i mean did you see Pacquiao face after the Clottey fight? How you think his face is gonna look when Floyd get done with him? Floyd is gonna bust him up the fight might get stopped on cuts

king every fan of boxing knows the str8 right is the answer to most southpaws. and floyds lead right will be a weapon of pacs destruction on fight night. he doesnt see how floydcan deal with pac and his multitude of flaws, well i have friends in optic circles that can help this man out. maby some trifocals will do the trick.

[OneTwoCombo]

this is what i'm talking about---this guy gets it---yo combo, it's so obvious isn't it? when manny threatened to walk away from the hatton fight unless he got the bigger purse and bobo arum had to come out of his own pockets to accomodate him, people didn't say ****---and floyd is crushing manny in ppv sales and has been for years, it's been proven----just like manny with cotto----cotto got maybe 35/65 with manny---had to come down to 145 and defend his belt, which was a 147 title---what the **** is that ****, and manny gets called all of these things and he's been dooping these duumb ****s for too long----onetwocombo, it's like it's pointless when these guys post on here---there's not talking logically too any of them-----they seem to think that because manny has all of these belts, he deserves the same purse split as floyd-----floyd don't want manny's belt---he don't need it-----floyd was the number 1 p4p fighter when he fought oscar, and although oscar was the champion, the title wasn't even talked about---the fight itself was talked about----oscar chose the gloves, the weight, the weight penalty, ring size, etc, and the bigger purse split, and floyd gave in, and still whooped his ass-----

but when manny doesn't do it, it's floyd's fault-----floyd is the bigger attraction, bar none---me and you to name a couple, know this----others on here who don't know ****, won't accept it----

Honestly I feel there is no point in arguing with them. You'll go round in circles. It's ok when Manny does something, but when Floyd doesn't even do anything it's his fault.

Look at people calling Floyd a duck. But Manny had a chance to agree to these same terms he's agreeing to now and didn't do it. Why were the terms not ok before but they're ok now? That is Manny ducking to me. But when Manny changes his mind like the wind, so do most of his hardcore fans.

I used to like this board, but it seems to be full of children or childish adults.

[mrjoeblive]

No question De La Hoya was done when FLOYD fought him, even Freddie Roach said this which is why he and Oscar had a falling out. Roach said Oscar 'couldn't pull the trigger anymore' and he even brought in sports psychologists and other shrinks to try to get in his head and figure out what the problem was during training camp. Oscar could've won against Floyd if he had listened to Roach who was begging him to use his jab more, but as usual, Oscar fizzled out down the stretch in a big fight (see Trinidad, Hopkins). In the end, Money got a split decision against and old DLH who had only fought Ricardo 'I smoke, I drink' Mayorga in the 3 years since being KO'ed by Hopkins. He was rusty, old, shot, couldn't pull the trigger, need shrinks to get his head in the game... and Money only walked away with a split decision and then 'retired' when it was time for the mandatory rematch.

Oscar was done but still the favorite 2-1 against Pacquiao and the odds were 9-1 against Manny getting a KO or TKO. Beat both odds resoundingly, wasn't even a fight. Neither guy fought a prime Oscar but Floyd got a SD and spent the whole night curled up in a ball on the ropes, while Manny made him quit on his stool, death by a thousand left hands.

And Hatton fought Collazo at 147 before he took on Floyd and looked AWFUL, he clearly had no business in the division and Money took advantage. Pacquiao beat him at HIS (Hatton's) weight class, where he was undefeated at c. 40-0... decapitated him in the second while knocking him down 2x in the first... with Mayweather Sr and his master tactics backing Hatton up in his corner

So yeah, context.

the only question for you is, at what wt did floyd face oscar at and at what wt did pac face him at? floyd fought oscar at his wt of 154lbs and he stopped using the jab because floyd started dropping the over hand right over his jab. punishing him every time he used it. he took away oscars weapon. and pac fought oscar at 147lbs. a wt he hasnt been at in seven years. a massive advantage for pac. add to that the contract stated oscar had to wt at 147 on fight night so he couldnt re-hydrate. thus leaving him a sitting duck. why didnt manny face him at 154 like floyd did? as for floyd sr training hatton, you cant re-train an old dog. he will always go back to what he knows. and even hatton said he should have had pac tested. so now we will see a law suit of pac vs hatton.

[Mr. Chago]

Since when does being P4P "Catchweight" King means bigger purse split...does this guy think we are all stupd??...

Now if the random drug testing is not an issue why not say it and agree like SSM did...make PBF look bad if he doesnīt accept 50/50, donīt come with the scare BS when PAC is of needles...until then STFU

[ThePrince]

king every fan of boxing knows the str8 right is the answer to most southpaws. and floyds lead right will be a weapon of pacs destruction on fight night. he doesnt see how floydcan deal with pac and his multitude of flaws, well i have friends in optic circles that can help this man out. maby some trifocals will do the trick.

LOL.

Mayweather throwing a straight right would be Roach's and Pacquiao's dream come true, easy counter for the patented left hook to put Money to sleep and a real retirement. No way in hell Roger/Floyd Sr would base a gameplan around what would allow Manny to counter with his best KO punch, no way in hell.

See what happened to Floyd when he tried that against Zab Judah in the 2nd round, then imagine Manny throwing the same left that sent Hatton to an early retirement and then you'll finally understand why Floyd Sr has nightmares about Jr fighting Pacquiao.

[pbftxrs316]

No question De La Hoya was done when FLOYD fought him, even Freddie Roach said this which is why he and Oscar had a falling out. Roach said Oscar 'couldn't pull the trigger anymore' and he even brought in sports psychologists and other shrinks to try to get in his head and figure out what the problem was during training camp. Oscar could've won against Floyd if he had listened to Roach who was begging him to use his jab more, but as usual, Oscar fizzled out down the stretch in a big fight (see Trinidad, Hopkins). In the end, Money got a split decision against and old DLH who had only fought Ricardo 'I smoke, I drink' Mayorga in the 3 years since being KO'ed by Hopkins. He was rusty, old, shot, couldn't pull the trigger, need shrinks to get his head in the game... and Money only walked away with a split decision and then 'retired' when it was time for the mandatory rematch.

Oscar was done but still the favorite 2-1 against Pacquiao and the odds were 9-1 against Manny getting a KO or TKO. Beat both odds resoundingly, wasn't even a fight. Neither guy fought a prime Oscar but Floyd got a SD and spent the whole night curled up in a ball on the ropes, while Manny made him quit on his stool, death by a thousand left hands.

And Hatton fought Collazo at 147 before he took on Floyd and looked AWFUL, he clearly had no business in the division and Money took advantage. Pacquiao beat him at HIS (Hatton's) weight class, where he was undefeated at c. 40-0... decapitated him in the second while knocking him down 2x in the first... with Mayweather Sr and his master tactics backing Hatton up in his corner

So yeah, context.

all of this is bs----nothing more----oscar couldn't pull the trigger against floyd because he wasn't good enough----even in his prime, he would lose to floyd---and as far as him and roach having a fallout over it, and him winning had he used his jab more, that's all speculation----there's a reason oscar stopped using his jab, that reason is floyd mayweather jr......nothing more----most everybody who has a ****ing logical bone in their body knows oscar lost that fight by ud, and max kellerman said it best---tommy kazmerick was smoking some serious **** that night to give oscar that fight----

it's funny about freddie roach, you say he even said oscar was past it, but he didn't say that when he fought floyd, he said it before oscar fought manny, numerous times, he said the same thing with hatton, cotto, and even though he ducked shane twice, even at catcweights, freddie had manny fight these guys when they were way past it-----he even said it-----

floyd fought hatton when he was undefeated, and even though ricky had a tough outing with collazo at 147, ricky won a title from him, and he knocked collazo down in the first round----remember also, collazo is a southpaw, and southpaws are tricky at times-----collazo gave berto problems, more than ricky hatton---it was just the style, not the weight, coz ricky won at his first outing at ww, so quit with all those excuses about floyd fighting ricky at 147---mother****er, floyd came up from 130---ricky started his career at 140, meaning he was bigger than floyd---do people take this into account----have we forgotten this kid?

didn't hatton duck floyd at 140, publicly stating he wasn't ready to fight floyd, and claimed he was more than ready to fight floyd at 147? have you forgotten this, or is it just, you never had any knowledge of this, because you forgeto to do your homework----don't defend manny without doing your homework---especially with me on this forum---i know the in and out of this damn sport, kid---manny is to blame, he's afraid of floyd, not the other way around----

floyd goes up 5 weight classes and remains undefeated, and ricky goes up one, even though, he balloons up to 180 when he's not fighting, and floyd maintains his fighting weight, when he doesn't fight---he stays in the gym and keeps himself disciplined---that's why he beat ricky---he was smarter, craftier, just overall better---just like he was with oscar----nothing more, nothing less----

some people can go up in weight and dominate, some can't----

oh and by the way, floyd's whooping manny's ****ing ass---that i promise you---

[ThePrince]

the only question for you is, at what wt did floyd face oscar at and at what wt did pac face him at? floyd fought oscar at his wt of 154lbs and he stopped using the jab because floyd started dropping the over hand right over his jab. punishing him every time he used it. he took away oscars weapon. and pac fought oscar at 147lbs. a wt he hasnt been at in seven years. a massive advantage for pac. add to that the contract stated oscar had to wt at 147 on fight night so he couldnt re-hydrate. thus leaving him a sitting duck. why didnt manny face him at 154 like floyd did? as for floyd sr training hatton, you cant re-train an old dog. he will always go back to what he knows. and even hatton said he should have had pac tested. so now we will see a law suit of pac vs hatton.

What about the fight against DLH said that if he was at 154 the fight would've been any different. Adding those extra pounds would've made him suddenly twice as fast and mobile? If anything, he would've been slower and an even easier target to hit for Manny, if that's possible. But Oscar being 5" taller, having 7" reach advantage was nothing since Manny had the weight advantage... even though he came in 3 lbs lighter? WOW.

And is A-Side Meth that effective that Pacquiao could go from 134 1/2 against Diaz and then 1 fight later go to 154 to fight Pac? You people wouldn't know logic if it bit you in the a$$. Get your story straight- Pacquiao is on drugs because he gained some weight, but then you ask why he didn't put on 20 pounds in between 1 fight/a few months? Which is it.

There was only one way to make that fight and that was for the 2 to meet in the middle, Pac gains weight, Oscar loses weight... and Oscar was still the 2-1 favorite and the fight was considered a huge mismatch and was going to be one last big payday and easy win for Oscar before riding off into the sunset.

Plans changed, excuses began.