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Floyd HAS NEVER BEATEN a BONA FIDE GREAT FIGHTER in their PRIME
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Originally posted by check hook View Posti would bet my house that MAB or EM could not have beaten Corrales at 130..........
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Originally posted by -Top Rank- View PostWell explain to me what fight proves how great Guzman truly is? When he faced Funeka in a step up fight he got completely owned bro.
so you are telling me Pac ducked an overrated bum???? if he is so ****, but so over rated why not fight him and get the credit.........???
Pac and his team wanted no part of Guzman......true story............
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Originally posted by check hook View Postso you are telling me Pac ducked an overrated bum???? if he is so ****, but so over rated why not fight him and get the credit.........???
Pac and his team wanted no part of Guzman......true story............
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What prime ATG fighters was Floyd suppose to fight?
Shane Mosley
Kosta Tyzu
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Are the only ATG fighters of his era that come to mind and he tried to fight all of them and beat 3 of them later on in there career and Hatton was still prime maybe out of his weight class but still prime so.I mean what more can you ask from the guy he beat everybody put in front of him now somebody has to prove themself by beating him
I mean look at this way Floyd is not in his prime anymore but still the best fighter in the world now let's say Pac beat him your not gonna say Pac beat him because he wasn't in his prime your gonna say Pac beat a HOF ATG in Floyd Mayweather
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i find it also interesting that people are saying that shane was shot and old when floyd beat him. these were the same people that said shane would destroy and knock out floyd. he didnt seem old and shot when he hurt floyd in second round. he wasnt shot when he knocked out ricardo mayorga and antonio margarito. not too many people said that he looked old and shot when he lost to cotto. so why is it that when floyd beats him people make an excuse that shane aged over night. that had nothing to do with it. floyd was hurt, he recovered, he adjusted his strategy and won the fight. thats all that it was. its not floyd's fault that shane failed to finish him when he clearly had him hurt.
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In you own words what constitutes an ATG? In the last ten years of boxing IMO there have been mqybe ten ATG's.
1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Shane Mosley
4. Roy Jones
5. Juan Marquez
6. Lennox Lewis
7. Winky Wright
8. Ivan Calderon
9.Oscar Delahoya
10.Wladamir Klits
And some mayebe a stretch but in there prime couldve beaten and competed with ATG's of the past. I think most people get caught up in a loss putting you out of contention but in reality thats why the fighters of the thirties and 1940's are so beloved. They fought each other multiple of times and all were tough as nails. Now im not saying there wasnt ducking going on back then because there surely was, but through it all those guys wouldve chased the guys of today away from the welterweight and middleweight division. Heavyweights of the past wouldve had a hard time beating the likes of Lennox Lewis, Klits brothers and Tyson but the lower weight classes were more skills lye would be dominated by the past ATG's even if you include pernell whitaker with Floyd, Manny, Mosley, Oscar, Cotto, Williams and Margarito. Heart and the will to take a challenge. A loss will eventually happen.
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Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby View PostIts true.
Now im not saying floyd is NOT a great fighter, he is but the level of greatness he & his delusional fan base claim IS WAYYYY OFF BASE.
Just look at his resume & ask yourself this question, name me a a fighter you could rightly classify as a GREAT Hall of Fame fighter that floyd beat in his prime?
He doesnt have none.
The 5 best names on Floyd's resume are
1. Shane Mosley - bona fide great fighter. HOF.
2. Juan Manuel Marquez - bona fide great fighter. HOF.
3. Oscar De La HOya - bona fide great fighter. HOF.
4. Diego Corrales - very good fighter. Not a true HOF great fighter.
5. Jose Luis Castillo - very good fighter. Not a true HOF great fighter.
The 3 true great HOF fighters floyd fought were all past prime & one was severely taken advantage of in abomination of a fight.
Floyd doesnt even have a ATG fighter in his resume yet he & his delusional fan base claim G.O.A.T?
After those 5 best names, the next five are
6. Hatton
7. Arturo Gatti
8. Genaro Hernandez
9. Zab Judah
10. Carlos Baldomir
His resume is really thin when you start trying to compare it to other ATG fighters.
None of those fighters i listed above are true bona fide great HALL OF FAME fighters.
Floyd is a great fighter, HOF, with ZERO A+ wins vs ATG fighters. I dont deny floyd's greatness, just the level of greatness he & his delusional fan boy fluffers thinks they deserve.
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