If 18 day Cutoff is True for Floyd/Shane, THEN WE ALL KNOW WHO DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Dont take what I say wrong. Im not saying what I believe. Im saying what they believe. Im not saying its right or it makes sense but thats how they think. I truly dont believe it had anything to do with Floyd's mantle. They just felt that no way should a little man move up & stop a Hatton, let alone a Cotto. They would say it in every interview. Then thats why they started saying stuff like "if he wins this one then I know whats up". You can say its not right but that **** is genuine to them. I honestly dont believe its fake. They would never even really break down the fight.

You ask them about any other fight then they would break it down but in these matches they will just say that there is no way a smaller man can walk through Cotto's punches like that & then have the power to knock him out unless he's on something. Its genuine and they arent the only one's who feel that way. Now that dont make it right or that its not horse**** but there belief in it is true. It didnt have nothing to do with Pac taking Floyd's throne. ****, I think thats the one part they did like because now its a big money mega fight.

Now there is another side to it. I truly also believe that Senior is worried about Floyd fighting the Southpaws. Thats real and its not just Pac. If it was up to him, he would probably keep Floyd away from Pac, Sergio, or Paul but the problem is they are the 3 biggest fights for Floyd. He's kinda like me in that regard in that he's a little paranoid about it. I think he truly feels his son is a class better than all 3 but could get caught with some Southpaw BS and struggle just because of that. Thats why I like the way he's helped Floyd in these last 2 fights but I dont want Roger to go to jail now of all times because I think Senior will be so paranoid that he may come up with a ****ty game plan for the Pac fight because he's scared of the Southpaw stuff so he will have Floyd running & being cautious. The good thing is that I think Junior will still have a mind of his own & fight his own fight in the ring but that does worry me

so we should drag through the mudd the sport, one of its biggest stars,& risk the fight of our generation because the mayweathers believe something they have no evidence of & lack of expertise?

how can you take it seriously when the drug that roger mayweather is accusing pac of taking; a side meth is a philippine superstition with no testing in place to detect it because there's no such drugs that make bullets bounce off of you during world war 2. how?

just because they are paranoid, ******, lack confidence, doesnt make it right for the sport & one of its most decorated stars of pac's status to cater & bow down to their wimpy whims.

[riannu]

So it's ok to smear someone when he's the most logical fight for you then when the issue caught fire magically demand the test. C'mom fighters fight under regular rules. You have to piss another guy them have the gall to demand testing when you already ruined his rep just to get some score.

The real question about Floyd is his resume. Here's a guy being hailed the greatest of your generation moving up to your weight class. bring lots of money to the table, smaller, less skilled, smaller reach and you put some roadblocks all the while convinceing the world you're the greatest of this era? That sounds like a duck to me.

[riannu]

Btw i don't believe this 18-day cut off. Floyd would have the be a dumb idiot to do that. This is Arum who's talking.

[Reloaded]

so we should drag through the mudd the sport, one of its biggest stars,& risk the fight of our generation because the mayweathers believe something they have no evidence of & lack of expertise?

how can you take it seriously when the drug that roger mayweather is accusing pac of taking; a side meth is a philippine superstition with no testing in place to detect it because there's no such drugs that make bullets bounce off of you during world war 2. how?

just because they are paranoid, ******, lack confidence, doesnt make it right for the sport & one of its most decorated stars of pac's status to cater & bow down to their wimpy whims.

So that means Pac is clean , you dont know that and neither do I , regardless of the reason of why OST was asked for after the fact there is no reason for saying NO to OST , thats the ***en point and the ***en bottom line forget the people and drama and look at ground zero , for 40 Million dollars the guy refuses to prove himself clean ,,,, *** off buddy , Floyd is right and all the hate wont change that , even on moral grounds Pac has an obligation to his fans and to the sport of boxing to prove he is clean if asked , for me thats unwritten rule is pro sport , for the fame and money they make they dont have a right to say no test and still be able to compete .

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

So that means Pac is clean , you dont know that and neither do I , regardless of the reason of why OST was asked for after the fact there is no reason for saying NO to OST , thats the ***en point and the ***en bottom line forget the people and drama and look at ground zero , for 40 Million dollars the guy refuses to prove himself clean ,,,, *** off buddy , Floyd is right and all the hate wont change that , even on moral grounds Pac has an obligation to his fans and to the sport of boxing to prove he is clean if asked , for me thats unwritten rule is pro sport , for the fame and money they make they dont have a right to say no test and still be able to compete .

i know pac is clean. all the negative tests & the fact that there isnt a single shred of steroid evidence against pac tells me so.

there are fights going on right now in the future in the past that didnt have ost. just because a scared closet **** like floyd is scared doesnt mean pac bows down to him.

proper thing would be to meet in the middle.

pac aint shane. he dont need floyd. pac & the sport of boxing was doing great when floyd was retired & it will after he retires.

[jrosales13]

I seriously doubt the 18 day cut off date was in the contract. USADA just so happened to take blood test 18 days before and then took urine test.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I seriously doubt the 18 day cut off date was in the contract. USADA just so happened to take blood test 18 days before and then took urine test.

this is boxing. the most crooked sport in the history of sports. everything is in play.

[V.WEBB]

this is boxing. the most crooked sport in the history of sports. everything is in play.

With THIS knowledge, you CRYING about a more stringent drug test for ONE OF THE top fighters in the sport, Manny Pacquaio?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

With THIS knowledge, you CRYING about a more stringent drug test for ONE OF THE top fighters in the sport, Manny Pacquaio?

when did pac become shane who was being accused by the drug overlord of american sports victor conte? did pac have some video diposition where he admitted steroid use?

did pac fail steroid tests like roy jones jr., james toney, & fernando vargas?


boxing is a dirty sport but there are good guys in the game & pac is one of them. his clean record speaks of that.

[Dick Buffman]

I don't understand how you guys can keep up with all the different permutations of this bull****.


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