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If you were Freddy Roach, what gameplan would you give Pac against Mayweather?

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    #31
    Originally posted by roughred View Post
    he should try to win on points. floyd is bigger than him
    so the only way is for him to win on points
    I think a points victory is more unlikely than a K.O. one. Pac will need every bit of that 10-12 week training camp Roach talked about. Ariza should maybe have him bulk up abit so he comes in at 146 all muscle to have this be the hardest hitting Manny ever. Manny is really gonna have to land solid power shots early to establish respect at the very least.

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      #32
      fast pase southpaws is the way to beat floyd

      its hard for him to read southpaws... he cant understand southpaw styles

      just dont run out of stamina, like judah or castillo on their rematch fight...

      be aggressive but at the same time be slick thats the way to beat floyd

      pack got the speed to do it, the power, the footwork

      as simple as that...
      Last edited by viperz007; 05-18-2010, 07:58 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by viperz007 View Post
        fast pase southpaws is the way to beat floyd

        its hard for him to read southpaws... he cant understand southpaw styles

        just dont run out of stamina, like judah or castillo on the second fight...

        be aggressive but at the same time be slick thats the way to beat floyd

        pack got the speed to do it, the power, the footwork

        as simple as that...
        I think Floyd would have trouble if Pac came at him relentlessly but Pacquaio stops throwing when he starts getting countered , it happened against JMM, plus Mayweather would ask him to cut the ring down, if someone of Cotto, Morales caliber (Boxing skills) can make it stick im pretty sure Mayweather can to.

        I saw a change in Pac in the second MAB fight, he had improved, he still got a razor thin decision against the past best(slipping)Marquez.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
          I think Floyd would have trouble if Pac came at him relentlessly but Pacquaio stops throwing when he starts getting countered , it happened against JMM, plus Mayweather would ask him to cut the ring down, if someone of Cotto, Morales caliber (Boxing skills) can make it stick im pretty sure Mayweather can to.

          I saw a change in Pac in the second MAB fight, he had improved, he still got a razor thin decision against the past best(slipping)Marquez.
          pacquiao change in this area already bro, when he gets hit once he throws 3-4 punch combo back at the enemy.. watch his latest fight againts hatton, dellahoya cotto clottey..

          and pacquiao can be slick too depends on wat type of enemy his fight, watch hatton and delahoya fight and see how slick he is,
          i think the reason why he want to be hit coz he was trying to prove to the people that he can take a punch anywhere, as people doubt he can... but he proven them wrong...

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            #35
            good post

            Originally posted by -GDS- View Post
            I heard posters suggest things that would help Manny score a bit, but I'm not so sure I've heard a rock solid gameplan for actually defeating Floyd. The goal isn't to make it a "Good fight" and for Manny to make Floyd stuggle. The goal is to defeat Floyd, by decision or stoppage. I'd hate to go into a training camp planning almost exclusively for the K.O, but Manny outscoring and decisioning Floyd is hard to picture...
            Its kinda funny, but I agree with the guy who said pot shot him. I would start by having manny work on his eyes, defense and reflexes in camp. Id teach him to use the whole ring, and teach him to pick his shots. Id advise him to stay in the middle of the ring and once he lands on floyd get out of range. Don't follow floyd to the ropes and believe it or not I wouldn't tell him to let his hands go as much... I favor Floyds style over Manny's but I think Manny is faster than Floyd. I KNOW Floyds quicker, so I would advise Manny to get in with movement touch him and get out. Basically try to out box Floyd. I know its a long shot but Floyd is in range in middle of the ring. He puts his wieght on his back foot and can't move if you throw from the right side. Its true what Naaz said about his postion. I know if Pac fought him there he would do good. He would have to limit floyd countering him and that would result in throwing less punches, but if they where hitting there mark more frequently they would be more effective and I think he could get a decision. Its definetly a difficult task.

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              #36
              to beat floyd pac needs devople a jab which means pac is going to have to think and set up punches, its way to late for pac to learn the use of jab. pac also needs to devolpe body punching and inside fighting. going in charging and just throwing a million punches against floyd is not going to work. with that said pac has no chance to beat floyd

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                #37
                dont forget about pacquiao being a southpaw guys and his faster than judah and castillo and definitely has better footwork than any of floyds opponent ever...

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                  #38
                  id advice him to keep avoiding the fight..cause he has no chance of winning

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by viperz007 View Post
                    pacquiao change in this area already bro, when he gets hit once he throws 3-4 punch combo back at the enemy.. watch his latest fight againts hatton, dellahoya cotto clottey..

                    and pacquiao can be slick too depends on wat type of enemy his fight, watch hatton and delahoya fight and see how slick he is,
                    i think the reason why he want to be hit coz he was trying to prove to the people that he can take a punch anywhere, as people doubt he can... but he proven them wrong...
                    and thats where he'll **** up with floyd

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Idgas View Post
                      i'd advise pac not to flurry and instead work with the lead straight left hand like in the oscar fight. basically, potshot floyd lol.
                      lol it sounds funny but that just might be the best plan

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