Comments Thread For: Larry Merchant on Floyd Mayweather, History and Legacy

[Hankey]

who cares?

the boxing world cares

when a guy says he is the best ever then doesnt attempt to beat the best in his division then people care

that is evident with any sport

absolute poop, what is he supposed to do, say I'm great, but not as great as so and so?

In his mind he has fought the best.

Why not give him a chance? he just beat the crap out of the consensus #1 WW

[edubb121]

I agree, Floyd Mayweathers "I'm going to clean up the sport" position is absolute bullshi7. It's tactical posturing following the failed negotiation with Pac, and the successful negotiation with Mosley.

Mayweather only insisted upon OST's after he heard rumours from people who trained at Wildcard, and many renowned boxing experts have commented that Manny's rise from lightweight has been extraordinary.

Who cares why Mayweather asked?

In 40-50 years time, OST's will have been standard-issue throughout the sport of boxing for decades. OST's will become mandatory in World Title Fights at least, guaranteed. When you and I are old men and we reflect back on boxing history.....
who's legacy will be affected by the fact that the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight did not happen because Manny wouldnt accept a 14-day cut off date for OST's ?

Dont you want to see this fight ?

1 i want to see this fight 2 im sick of manny and floyd but floyd has been annoying me with his choice of opponents since 2004 so im asking questions about this drug testing thing because he brought it up. nobody said anything about manny and steroids until mayweather came back and got questioned about fighting pac. 3 mosley had a 14 day cut off for blood and he admitted to taking steroids. so now manny cant have a blood cut off? rumors circulate all the time. rumors arent fact but rumors dont get a cut off date and proven and admitted steroid use does?

4th and most important MAYWEATHER'S LEGACY WILL BE AFFECTED MORE BY NOT FIGHTING MANNY manny has been in wars, manny has lost, manny got better and avenged his losses. manny doesnt go around saying hes the goat with no opposition under his belt. nobody wants to see manny fight mayweather. they want to see mayweather fight manny. they want mayweather to prove himself. boxing fans want him in a ring with a legit challenge. we're telling him put up or stfu. if he loses and pac is proven to have taken steroids, the fight turns into a no contest and he keeps his 0 intact. if he wins and pac is on steroids, he's the guy that even steroids cant beat. so y not say f*** the tests???

[jbpanama]

dude, mike jackson brought on his own demons and problems having kids spend the night in his room, all those surgeries, the guy was a freak show, great musical artist and trendsetter but had some mental issues

i love mike tyson, even to this day, but he acted like a psycho, bit evanders ear, after all the headbutts cant really blame him for flipping out

and *****, every politician is scrutinized all days of their terms, *****, bush, clinton, jfk


all of them

Some clown, asked me if I consider Pac Great???

Like Tyson, Pac is , hands down, the most EXCITING
fighter of his generation!!!

[thatnickuh]

Pac agreed to the testing with a 24 day cut off.Pac is the P4P king and is a draw himself who does not need Mayweather.Manny ask for the 10mill because May came in over weight for the Marquez fight.Manny has never tested postive for any peds so why should he be subject to May's testing?VALID points bro.Listen I understand you like May I like May too but I'm not gonna ride him and believe every lil thing he say's.He also said he has been calling Mosley out for wild long but yet was not in the WW div.Oh and boxing writers have given alot of reason why Mosley look the way he look.I'm not looking for any excuses Mosley is my favorite fight not once have I made an excuse on this site for why he lost.So check my resume before you talking about excuses HomeBoy.Fact no proof of Manny doing any wrong doing.Fact if May said Manny was a murder you would wanna send him to jail for life.

Pacquiao never agreed to anything. He and his people took several different and contradicting positions throughout the negotiations. The 24 day cut off was just the last position that they took and they only took that position after it was proven that Pacquiao had given blood within 30 days of fighting Hatton. Had the HBO footage not been dug up, Pacquiao would've never moved off of his 30 day cut off stance. The point is that Team Pacquiao's word doesn't really mean much because they've been caught in numerous lies and contradictions.

Funny how you accuse me of believing everything that Mayweather says, when that's exactly what you're guilty of regarding Pacquiao. My position on the issue isn't based on anything that Mayweather has said, my position on this issue is based completely on the facts. It's ok to like Pacquiao, but you don't have to bend over backwards to make excuses and justify nonsensical behavior. Saying that Pacquiao is justified in refusing more stringent testing becauase he's never been caught under a lax testing system is just dumb. It's insulting to people's intelligence. If you honestly think that's a valid point, then that says something about your intelligence, "bro". Pacquiao never testing positive under this current drug testing system does not guarantee that he's not using PEDs. What part of that is so hard for you and people like you to understand?



Earlier in this conversation you gave credence to those that are saying that Mosley was blood drained even though Mosley himself hasn't said this. If that isn't an excuse then what is? There is no way that he was blood drained for the fight, the only people who believe that are idiots who have convinced themselves to believe it.

You can keep pretending that people like me are only su****ious of Pacquiao because of what Team Mayweather has said, but that just shows how narrowminded you are. Like I've said, my position on this issue is based on the facts and nothing more. I didn't start getting su****ious of Pacquiao until I saw that there was a real possibility that he would walk away from the fight over the random drug testing issue. That decision is what makes him look su****ious to people such as myself. The neverending constantly changing excuses for why he can't comply with the random blood testing don't help him look any less su****ious either. You need to wake up man. Seems as if you saw Pacquiao slap your mother in the mouth, you'd find a way to blame her for trying to hurt Pacquiao's hand with her face.

[amayseng]

Some clown, asked me if I consider Pac Great???

Like Tyson, Pac is , hands down, the most EXCITING
fighter of his generation!!!

of course he is exciting, he is a warrior, a fighter, he brings that fighter mentality to get his opponent out of there.

floyd is an exciting boxer counter puncher

these two together would make a great fight because there are a lot of questions about how their styles will match up

we just need the fight to happen

[switchsouthpaw]

i guess you are right. teaching his kids the proper way to behave and be respectful and carrying the sport which made him great and rich beyond comprehension does not matter to him.

for all of you who are not parents then you dont get it.

i have an 11 year old son whom i have raised alone his whole life and not in one ****ing second would i act like that because when you have kids whom you love more than yourselves you understand how important it is to be a good role model


floyd is talented enough to act "right" and still make 40 million dollars


tell me no

You make some great points, but it's a no sum argument/debate...just look at who you're having to respond to--"racism" is their reflexive response.

[thatnickuh]

floyd is talented enough to act "right" and still make 40 million dollars


tell me no

There is nothing wrong with the way that Mayweather "acts". What's acting "right" anyway?

Race definitely plays a part in how Mayweather is viewed by a lot of people. He's simply playing the game. America has always loved to hate loud, boastful black men. Only certain types of black men are accpeted by mainstream America. The game that Mayweather is playing is no different than the game that Ali or Jack Johnson played. It's not his fault that people are too ****** to understand that a lot of what he says and does in the media is for the hype.

[edubb121]

Seems as if you saw Pacquiao slap your mother in the mouth, you'd find a way to blame her for trying to hurt Pacquiao's hand with her face.

LMAO!! the whole pac drug test thing is debatable. one side will say pac is hiding something because he turned down 40 million. the other side will say floyd is scared because he wont give on the cut off date to make his 40 million.

i dont think pac is as money oriented as "money" mayweather is. the fact that he walked away from 40 million would be a big wtf if he had the same mentality as floyd but he doesnt. meanwhile, floyd didnt make his 40mill guaranteed because he wanted 14 days instead of 24. and hes money oriented. there are too many sides and contradictions and assumptions surrounding this ****** story.

pac does what hes told. hes a servant. bob arums pulls the horse by the reigns and guides him wherever he wishes his prize steed to go. hes still upset that mayweather is getting checks and hes not getting a piece so negotiations already start rocky at best.

if we do see this fight, some severe compromises are going to have to be made. and sadly i dont think that will happen because 2 super egos are involved. the fight should be arum vs mayweather. clash of the titans

[Rome-By-Ko]

Pacquiao never agreed to anything. He and his people took several different and contradicting positions throughout the negotiations. The 24 day cut off was just the last position that they took and they only took that position after it was proven that Pacquiao had given blood within 30 days of fighting Hatton. Had the HBO footage not been dug up, Pacquiao would've never moved off of his 30 day cut off stance. The point is that Team Pacquiao's word doesn't really mean much because they've been caught in numerous lies and contradictions.

Funny how you accuse me of believing everything that Mayweather says, when that's exactly what you're guilty of regarding Pacquiao. My position on the issue isn't based on anything that Mayweather has said, my position on this issue is based completely on the facts. It's ok to like Pacquiao, but you don't have to bend over backwards to make excuses and justify nonsensical behavior. Saying that Pacquiao is justified in refusing more stringent testing becauase he's never been caught under a lax testing system is just dumb. It's insulting to people's intelligence. If you honestly think that's a valid point, then that says something about your intelligence, "bro". Pacquiao never testing positive under this current drug testing system does not guarantee that he's not using PEDs. What part of that is so hard for you and people like you to understand?



Earlier in this conversation you gave credence to those that are saying that Mosley was blood drained even though Mosley himself hasn't said this. If that isn't an excuse then what is? There is no way that he was blood drained for the fight, the only people who believe that are idiots who have convinced themselves to believe it.

You can keep pretending that people like me are only su****ious of Pacquiao because of what Team Mayweather has said, but that just shows how narrowminded you are. Like I've said, my position on this issue is based on the facts and nothing more. I didn't start getting su****ious of Pacquiao until I saw that there was a real possibility that he would walk away from the fight over the random drug testing issue. That decision is what makes him look su****ious to people such as myself. The neverending constantly changing excuses for why he can't comply with the random blood testing don't help him look any less su****ious either. You need to wake up man. Seems as if you saw Pacquiao slap your mother in the mouth, you'd find a way to blame her for trying to hurt Pacquiao's hand with her face.

Lol like the youtube vid but something don't add up about that vid the time lines check who each fighter was fighting when both statments was made.Time line is everything.Back to the Pac Mayweather drug testing debacle.You are a true Floyd fan boy all of you are the same.Floyd is never wrong.You say you go on facts right.Fact is you or nobody else that follows this sport have ever thought or accused Pac of Peds before Floyd's team mention it that's a fact bro.Fact Pac does not have to clear a name that was never dirty Fact.You have no PROOF so untill you do it's all hearsay please bro people like me LMAO.People like your self who swing from May's nuts like your own personal swing.Bottom line you are going by what May said because before his team said it you had no thoughts of it in your mind please with the B.S. it's sad.I have no stake in either fighter but the fact that I like umm both.You are so blinded with the fact that I'm not totally on May's side that you are not hearing that I said they both have valid POINTS.Wake up and read a whole post before you start swinging please.As far as Mosley being weight drained I have never said this but Boxing WRITERS and even people on this website have offered that excuse.Once again check my resume son I don't make excuses.I also don't jump on a side of my favorite fighter just cause he is my favorite fighter.Anybody can be wrong and in this case IMO they are both wrong.Pac is innocent in my view.He does not have to summit to anything and if the fight dose not happen I won't blame him.Not to say I'll blame Floyd because Once again I see were both are coming from.My man you just sound a bias poster who wants someone to blame for this fight not coming off and you can't blame May because that's your fighter so it has to be pac's fault.If someone came to me and said hey I think you robed my house I wanna go in your house and search it with no police(Police would be the boxing comm)I would tell umm to **** off ya dig.