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    #11
    Originally posted by 2501 View Post
    No, Alexander is the better boxer. Quote me on that.
    Post like this have me wondering if Alexander is the most overrated fighter active today. I might have a blind spot for Alexander but honestly dont see what other people see in him, at times its as though he shows Mayweather esque type skillset, well, that is if you listen to fans who rate him highly, only he doesn't show me that type of talent, he is a good competent Boxer, he also seems to have a strong will/desire, however i cant say i see that star quality in him that others see.

    Let me just say, this has nothing to do with being a Bradley fan either, i mean you can chastise Bradley all you want and i wont rise to it, im not that type of fan, just dont get why people hype Alexander so much.

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      #12
      I said this on another thread,

      I understand that he stopped Urango and was the 1st to do so, but people aren't looking at his weaknesses. One of them being defense, he has very little head movement and tends to back up in a straight line; because of that he was eating Urango's right hook all night long. He was never able to neutralize that weapon. His fundamentals are good offensively but his defense is crap, although we see that he is durable.

      Then we have to take a closer look at Alexander's power. His power is indeed overrated, Alexander never hurt Urango before landing that uppercut. He never hurt Demarcus Corley, and I strongly believe alot of that is because he's too tense; too stiff. He has a bad tendency of pawing with his punches, they sort of look like he's pushing with his punches. You can clearly see that he commits to them but his punches don't get the kind of effect that he wants. His K.O over Urango was nothing more then a great set up and this isn't to try and discredit that. Also that tenseness greatly diminishes his reach, I know a thing or 2 about that. I know people who have had that problem.

      To me, Bradley is the better athlete, the superior boxer, the more relaxed in the ring. And I'm gonna go on a limb and say...the better puncher aswell. Now if someone could explain how Alexander beats Bradley, go ahead.
      Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 07-24-2010, 07:11 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Akira Fudo View Post
        I said this on another thread,

        I understand that he stopped Urango and was the 1st to do so, but people aren't looking at his weaknesses. One of them being defense, he has very little head movement and tends to go backwards in a straight line; because of that he was eating Urango's right hook all night long. He was never able to neutralize that weapon. His fundamentals are good offensively but his defense is crap, although we see that he is durable.

        Then we have to take a closer look at Alexander's power. His power is indeed overrated, Alexander never hurt Urango before landing that uppercut. He never hurt Demarcus Corley, and I strongly believe alot of that is because he's too tense; too stiff. He has a bad tendency of pawing with his punches, they sort of look like he's pushing with his punches. You can clearly see that he commits to them but his punches don't get the kind of effect that he wants. His K.O over Urango was nothing more then a great set up and this isn't to try and discredit that. Also that tenseness greatly diminishes his reach, I know a thing or 2 about that. I know people who have had that problem.

        To me, Bradley is the better athlete, the superior boxer, the more relaxed in the ring. And I'm gonna go on a limb and say...the better puncher aswell. Now if someone could explain how Alexander beats Bradley, go ahead.

        Agreed, good post, that is precisely what i see with him.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
          Post like this have me wondering if Alexander is the most overrated fighter active today. I might have a blind spot for Alexander but honestly dont see what other people see in him,
          well mayweather called alexander after he beat urango and said alexander would be his successor not bradley. so either mayweather doesn't know what he's watch or you just got a blind spot.

          at times its as though he shows Mayweather esque type skillset, well, that is if you listen to fans who rate him highly, only he doesn't show me that type of talent,
          well, if you compare anyone to floyd of course you are gonna find them lacking.

          he is a good competent Boxer, he also seems to have a strong will/desire, however i cant say i see that star quality in him that others see.
          does alexander have to go on dancing with the stars first for you to see the star quality in him?

          Let me just say, this has nothing to do with being a Bradley fan either,
          I'm pretty sure that's the reason why.

          i mean you can chastise Bradley all you want and i wont rise to it, im not that type of fan, just dont get why people hype Alexander so much.
          it's because alexander is really good.

          Originally posted by Akira Fudo View Post
          I said this on another thread,

          I understand that he stopped Urango and was the 1st to do so, but people aren't looking at his weaknesses.
          ok, lets look at his "weaknesses".

          One of them being defense, he has very little head movement and tends to back up in a straight line; because of that he was eating Urango's right hook all night long. He was never able to neutralize that weapon. His fundamentals are good offensively but his defense is crap, although we see that he is durable.
          I don't know the exact number but urango landed the right hook like 5 times the entire fight. I don't see how that is a huge defensive flaw.

          Then we have to take a closer look at Alexander's power. His power is indeed overrated, Alexander never hurt Urango before landing that uppercut.
          Abraham wasn't hurting Taylor before the landing that right hand in the 12th, but you dont' see people saying AA's power is overrated.

          I strongly believe alot of that is because he's too tense; too stiff. He has a bad tendency of pawing with his punches, they sort of look like he's pushing with his punches. You can clearly see that he commits to them but his punches don't get the kind of effect that he wants.
          I dunno about that. alexander seems pretty fluid with his offense and defense.

          His K.O over Urango was nothing more then a great set up and this isn't to try and discredit that.
          I don't care how great you set up a punch, but if alexander pawing and pushing his punches the way you characterize his punches, then there's no way that punch would've stopped urango.

          Also that tenseness greatly diminishes his reach, I know a thing or 2 about that. I know people who have had that problem.
          I don't see this "tenseness" you keep talking about.

          To me, Bradley is the better athlete,
          bradley is not the hardest puncher at 140. it's almost safe to say that if you get KOed by bradley either you got a glass chin, your a scrub, or you are past your prime. he is not the fastest puncher at 140. he doesn't have any height advantage. he has average reach.

          he might have a better physique and incredible conditioning (imho that's his gift and ace in the hole), and some fancy footwork but other than that he's no alexander.

          the superior boxer,
          bradley's technique isn't horrible but he's no alexander. his punches are too loopy and he needs to shorten up his left hook. his jab is decent. his best punch is the right hand.

          bradley is the pwill of the 140 lbs division, except pwill will stand and trade while bradley will try and turn you.

          the more relaxed in the ring. And I'm gonna go on a limb and say...the better puncher aswell.
          wow. yeah. you are way out there. you aren't even on the limb anymore, you already fell out the tree.

          there's no way bradley is a better puncher than devon.

          Now if someone could explain how Alexander beats Bradley, go ahead.
          it'll be a tough fight, but devon will pull through.

          stylistically, bradley is a swarmer/boxer and alexander is a boxer/puncher. punchers beat swarmers.

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            #15
            No... Alexander's southpaw style combined with his speed, defense, and solid, consistent jab will give the style advantage against pretty much everyone he faces.

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              #16
              Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
              well mayweather called alexander after he beat urango and said alexander would be his successor not bradley. so either mayweather doesn't know what he's watch or you just got a blind spot.


              well, if you compare anyone to floyd of course you are gonna find them lacking.


              does alexander have to go on dancing with the stars first for you to see the star quality in him?


              I'm pretty sure that's the reason why.


              it's because alexander is really good.


              ok, lets look at his "weaknesses".


              I don't know the exact number but urango landed the right hook like 5 times the entire fight. I don't see how that is a huge defensive flaw.


              Abraham wasn't hurting Taylor before the landing that right hand in the 12th, but you dont' see people saying AA's power is overrated.


              I dunno about that. alexander seems pretty fluid with his offense and defense.


              I don't care how great you set up a punch, but if alexander pawing and pushing his punches the way you characterize his punches, then there's no way that punch would've stopped urango.


              I don't see this "tenseness" you keep talking about.


              bradley is not the hardest puncher at 140. it's almost safe to say that if you get KOed by bradley either you got a glass chin, your a scrub, or you are past your prime. he is not the fastest puncher at 140. he doesn't have any height advantage. he has average reach.

              he might have a better physique and incredible conditioning (imho that's his gift and ace in the hole), and some fancy footwork but other than that he's no alexander.


              bradley's technique isn't horrible but he's no alexander. his punches are too loopy and he needs to shorten up his left hook. his jab is decent. his best punch is the right hand.

              bradley is the pwill of the 140 lbs division, except pwill will stand and trade while bradley will try and turn you.


              wow. yeah. you are way out there. you aren't even on the limb anymore, you already fell out the tree.

              there's no way bradley is a better puncher than devon.




              it'll be a tough fight, but devon will pull through.

              stylistically, bradley is a swarmer/boxer and alexander is a boxer/puncher. punchers beat swarmers.





              I don't see this "tenseness" you keep talking about.

              Honestly, if you aint recognized this yet then there is no point talking to you.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                I don't see this "tenseness" you keep talking about.

                Honestly, if you aint recognized this yet then there is no point talking to you.
                Thank you, my GOD!

                I swear people need to look at everything, take note of everything!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
                  well mayweather called alexander after he beat urango and said alexander would be his successor not bradley. so either mayweather doesn't know what he's watch or you just got a blind spot.


                  well, if you compare anyone to floyd of course you are gonna find them lacking.


                  does alexander have to go on dancing with the stars first for you to see the star quality in him?


                  I'm pretty sure that's the reason why.


                  it's because alexander is really good.


                  ok, lets look at his "weaknesses".


                  I don't know the exact number but urango landed the right hook like 5 times the entire fight. I don't see how that is a huge defensive flaw.


                  Abraham wasn't hurting Taylor before the landing that right hand in the 12th, but you dont' see people saying AA's power is overrated.


                  I dunno about that. alexander seems pretty fluid with his offense and defense.


                  I don't care how great you set up a punch, but if alexander pawing and pushing his punches the way you characterize his punches, then there's no way that punch would've stopped urango.


                  I don't see this "tenseness" you keep talking about.


                  bradley is not the hardest puncher at 140. it's almost safe to say that if you get KOed by bradley either you got a glass chin, your a scrub, or you are past your prime. he is not the fastest puncher at 140. he doesn't have any height advantage. he has average reach.

                  he might have a better physique and incredible conditioning (imho that's his gift and ace in the hole), and some fancy footwork but other than that he's no alexander.


                  bradley's technique isn't horrible but he's no alexander. his punches are too loopy and he needs to shorten up his left hook. his jab is decent. his best punch is the right hand.

                  bradley is the pwill of the 140 lbs division, except pwill will stand and trade while bradley will try and turn you.


                  wow. yeah. you are way out there. you aren't even on the limb anymore, you already fell out the tree.

                  there's no way bradley is a better puncher than devon.



                  it'll be a tough fight, but devon will pull through.

                  stylistically, bradley is a swarmer/boxer and alexander is a boxer/puncher. punchers beat swarmers.
                  You did the old Pullcounter. You broke down my post bit by bit and in the end provided nothing.

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                    #19
                    i just think bradley is better at everything except power.....(and even there, alexander's power is a bit overrated...but still better than bradley's)

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