USA TODAY: Mayweather-Mosley can break the PPV record

[wizard king]

What was Oscar's biggest sale without Mayweather?

Thanks in advance.

pick one *****

Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million
5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million
6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million
7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million
8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million
9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million
11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million
12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million
13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million
14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million
15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million
17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million
18. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (5/07) 2.15 million buys = $120.0 million


Totals: 12.6 million buys = $610.6 million

[Pocket Dogs!]

Then explain Mike Tyson's huge numbers pre-Oscar.

You have to keep it in context. Mike Tyson's numbers were huge because he was in the heavyweight division back when the heavyweight division wasn't considered ****ty and the sport was still booming. Americans always wanted to watch the big guys knocking each other around but never the medium sized to smaller guys.

[edgarg]

Then explain Mike Tyson's huge numbers pre-Oscar.

Mike Tyson was SPECIAL, one of a kind, Mayweather isn't.

[edgarg]

pick one *****

Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million
5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million
6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million
7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million
8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million
9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million
11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million
12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million
13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million
14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million
15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million
17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million
18. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (5/07) 2.15 million buys = $120.0 million


Totals: 12.6 million buys = $610.6 million

It's interesting-to me at least- that the higher returns are because of the bigger name opponents. and yet the fans are discerning enough to no "go overboard" when the big name opponent is known to be on the downslide.

Good examples of this are Julio Cesar Chavez and Macho Camacho, who would be counted on to put up a good show perhaps but who really had no major chance of winning. The lesser thought-of opponents, were relegated to the 300,000 buys category.

[And Still]

pick one *****

Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History

9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million

1) If we are having a business discussion, why do you feel the need to throw insults? Insecurity?


2) so Oscar's best performance WITHOUT floyd was roughly half what it was WITH floyd.

[And Still]

Mike Tyson was SPECIAL, one of a kind, Mayweather isn't.

Being a consistent million PPV guy isn't special?

What is?

[edgarg]

Mayweather will break "his own record" lol

I think that record was a team effort

At a quick glance it seems that Oscar's last 7 PPV's sold about 6.5 million, and his last 6 sold about 5.6 million. So they are comparable .......More or less.

[edgarg]

Being a consistent million PPV guy isn't special?

What is?

I was speaking about his boxing appeal and level. Tyson, regardless of how long his prime lasted, and regardless of what people might have thought about his out-of-ring activities, was one of a kind, the very image og boxing, a guy known all over the world for his ferocity and brilliant unrelenting attacking style.

Compared to him, regardless of how many PPV's Mayweather might "sell" he doesn't sell them on his own, whereas Tyson did. Tyson was the greatest money maker in the history of boxing.

Again, compared to Tyson, Mayweather is ORDINARY.

[And Still]

I was speaking about his boxing appeal and level. Tyson, regardless of how long his prime lasted, and regardless of what people might have thought about his out-of-ring activities, was one of a kind, the very image og boxing, a guy known all over the world for his ferocity and brilliant unrelenting attacking style.

Compared to him, regardless of how many PPV's Mayweather might "sell" he doesn't sell them on his own, whereas Tyson did. Tyson was the greatest money maker in the history of boxing.

Again, compared to Tyson, Mayweather is ORDINARY.

From a cultural touchstone standpoint, you are right. From an economic juggernaut, they are very close.

[Ido]

1.5 mill sounds reasonable.