Where do YOU stand on the Valero's death?

[extracurRICular]

The guy is a world champion....

Hes been in trouble with the law constantly...

Had restraining orders etc for obvious reasons...

Stabs his wife 3 times, commits murder...then commits suicide...

Why the **** is any1 saying RIP to this guy?

And i would of wanted him to rot in prison for the rest of his life, he took the cowards way out

Probably because everyone is entitled to THEIR own opinion.....don't' get me wrong...im with you.....the man killed his wife.....and I don't have much compassion for wife beaters either.....but some folks don't see it that way.....I know right....go figure!!!!

[killacash]

I am not the Creator and as far as im concerned none of you guys are either. So I cant judge him because I didnt create the man. Yes, the boy ****ed up and ****ed his life, his wife, and his kid's life up. He brought us alot of excitement and entertainment and with that being said I hope he is at peace and his wife.

[crillz]

This love thing you guys keep talking about??? maaaaaaaaan I gotta tell ya......that's a hard one for me to buy......admittedly I don't know these people on a personal level....but im pretty sure you guys don't either so at this point it's all based on personal opinion on what we have heard on the news or what not.....based on that the man was abusive....and used to beat on his wife.....can can you love someone and treat them that way???? I sorry fellas....I just don't see it........did he used to lover her??? yeah probably at some point when they got together.....but that love must have turned to hate for him to behave as such (according to reports) if I had to put money on it.....I'd say he didn't love her as much as was obsessed with her....but again...that's just IMHO....

thing is that the same media who says they loved each other are also the very same media saying negative **** about him u feel me, different reporters report different things though and the insight I captured from all this is that he did love her except when he was drunk, which according to reports was A LOT, he was abusive, when he was sensible he was aware that he needed a change

[extracurRICular]

Hey men its a real tragedy I think this kind of thread its a little offensive...

Really i mean its a boxing forum ( and not a particulary bright one lets be real ) a place to ask for opinions about if a guy deserves or not to die.

Its a really sad tragedy thats my opinion.

Offensive??? how so??? this is a forum for opinions right??? and everyone is entitled to theirs....You are entitled to your opinion....however if it's offensive to you I would suggest to stay out of the thread so as to not be offended....

[extracurRICular]

I am not the Creator and as far as im concerned none of you guys are either. So I cant judge him because I didnt create the man. Yes, the boy ****ed up and ****ed his life, his wife, and his kid's life up. He brought us alot of excitement and entertainment and with that being said I hope he is at peace and his wife.

Of course not....and I dont think anyone here is making that assertion....the fact that none of us can judge the man doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on the matter.....there is no wrong or right here.....its simple expressing one's opinion on a tragedy that took place in the boxing world....our collective opinion wont change what happened or what will happen to the Valero's in the future...simple a topic of conversation is all.....

[Jim Jeffries]

Seems odd that he would've hanged himself, since he might've gotten away with it, given his ties to Chavez and overall popularity.

[..David..]

Of course not....and I dont think anyone here is making that assertion....the fact that none of us can judge the man doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on the matter.....there is no wrong or right here.....its simple expressing one's opinion on a tragedy that took place in the boxing world....our collective opinion wont change what happened or what will happen to the Valero's in the future...simple a topic of conversation is all.....

I feel you men, its just that i dont think NSB its a good place for that kind of argument hehe But you are right maybe i missunderstood your intention. But its a damn shame thats for sure.

I hope his kids are taken care of, imagine that your father stabbing your mom and then killing himself in jail in less than 2 days. Wow I hope they dont end up as crazy as their father after that sh it.

[Pullcounter]

There are lots of comments on the tragedy some positive some negative....just wondering where BSN stands on the matter of Valero's death....and yes it was a tragedy.....at the end of the day regardless of the situation or circumstances......two young people are dead, kids were left orphans, families were scarred and although much less important an enormous talent in the boxing world was lost.....if that's not a tragedy I don't know what is.....but what's your take on Valero's final outcome?? Poll to come...did he deserve to die?

i stand with jennifer on this issue. **** valero and **** chavez. the only real victim here is jennifer.

[hammerhiem]

mixture of two and four, he was sick and needed help but should have spent a long time in the slammer to reflect on what he did.

[extracurRICular]

I feel you men, its just that i dont think NSB its a good place for that kind of argument hehe But you are right maybe i missunderstood your intention. But its a damn shame thats for sure.

I hope his kids are taken care of, imagine that your father stabbing your mom and then killing himself in jail in less than 2 days. Wow I hope they dont end up as crazy as their father after that sh it.

I wonder how old them kids are....one can only hope they are too small to know what is going on or at least to remember when they grow up....cuz that is some messed up **** no lie!