is DLH and the people at GBP ******?

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you think hamed wasn't brought along well? explain.

You said he was a ****** promoter

we talking about how GBP handles their prospects. get on topic or GTFO.

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you think hamed wasn't brought along well? explain.

How is that relevant to right now, today? The two best promoters are Arum and GPB.

we talking about how GBP handles their prospects. get on topic or GTFO.

Yeah, yo we talking son.. Speaking of which. Please see above post where you will see how Frank and Nas are as irrelevant to this thread as what I said about GPB promoting fights. ****** DLH mind you.

Since we can't stay on topic, join me and

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wait lets break this down a bit

Ortiz- remember Top Rank had him first so any development issues could have started there as well. Also, at some point a fighter brought along in the manner at which Ortiz was has to show his mettle. As far as I know I didn't see anyone on here giving Maidana much of a shot based on his lackluster performance against Kotelnik. Funny how revisionists now think Maidana was **** monster going into it and all lays on GBP's feet

Valero- uh what exactly are you supposed to do with a guy who isn't medically cleared to fight in the US and has had issues with law?

Mosley- a lot of it is his own doing or did we forget that he kept calling out Manny and only Manny during the entire summer even so far as asking for 140lbs. I actually talked to Bradley's co promoters and said they should take up the slack and offer their services to Shane and he said GBP didnt want that fight even at a catchweight because Shane only wants big names

Hopkins- I think we have seen why GBP has been hesitant in getting into the Hopkins fight business anymore. They at best broke even on April 3rd

amen to that. This place is full of Monday morning quarterbacks......

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its GBP fault for putting him in that situation. they rushed him too fast after feeding him a bunch of bums and guys that had no hope of beating him.

also they didn't properly scout maidana. they probably did what most of you did and just looked him up on boxrec.com

The hell are you talking about? For losing to a one dimensional puncher, Ortiz has no one to blame but himself.

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I can't wait to see Alvarez in action!

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amen to that. This place is full of Monday morning quarterbacks......

Nate feeling the gloves still bro?

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How is that relevant to right now, today? The two best promoters are Arum and GPB.

Yeah, yo we talking son.. Speaking of which. Please see above post where you will see how Frank and Nas are as irrelevant to this thread as what I said about GPB promoting fights. ****** DLH mind you.

Since we can't stay on topic, join me and

lols. you said name one I gave you one. you never said anything about relevancy to day.

as for you going off topic.... stay on topic or GTFO

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amen to that. This place is full of Monday morning quarterbacks......

lols... GBP sucks at building up their prospects. what else is there to say

The hell are you talking about? For losing to a one dimensional puncher, Ortiz has no one to blame but himself.

nope, he has GBP to thank for putting him in a bunch of one-sided fights and when ortiz had to face someone that wasn't gonna go away, he quit.

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nope, he has GBP to thank for putting him in a bunch of one-sided fights and when ortiz had to face someone that wasn't gonna go away, he quit.

No your just grasping at straws, because its easy to place a blame or dig up reasons then to retrospectively analyze what this fight meant, and how it went down. Ortiz did not follow his game plan, he suckered himself into brawl.

Maidana was a perfect match, for Ortiz to show off. He is a one dimensional flat footed puncher, coming off a loss to Andriy Kotelnik. There is no reason why Ortiz could not have outboxed Maidana like Kotelik did.

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No your just grasping at straws, because its easy to place a blame or dig up reasons then to retrospectively analyze what this fight meant, and how it went down. Ortiz did not follow his game plan, he suckered himself into brawl.

Maidana was a perfect match, for Ortiz to show off. He is a one dimensional flat footed puncher, coming off a loss to Andriy Kotelnik. There is no reason why Ortiz could not have outboxed Maidana like Kotelik did.

if you're right, then there's no reason why there shouldn't have been an immediate rematch.

the fact that there are no plans for a rematch means GBP finally got the point... don't rush ortiz and feed him nate. but nate is a savy vet and might pull some tricks out of his sleeve.

too bad GBP didn't learn they gotta do the same w/ Alvarez.