Comments Thread For: Roach: We Want The Mayweather-Mosley Winner Next

[GRUSTLER]

leonard is a legend but a 36-3-1 record and ducking aaron pryor should be mentioned if you are going to go there...

you keep saying floyd "ducked" but bob arum has alot to do with Cotto, Marg fights not being made what other fights has he ducked and explain it. dont say he ducked shane either because he tried to fight him when he was in his prime!

Bob Arum only does things that suits him and works in his favor and
best interest. How is Arum going to say he didn't want to participate
in a De La Hoya fight and the money wasn't there? Floyd made it
happen anyways on his own. I'm sure if Arum could have guaranteed
the 10MIL for Hatton and Cotto them fights and the Margarito fight
would have been made. Floyd is about his business and paper.
Wished most fighters took control of their own careers and had
more say so. De La Hoya left Arum and look how successful he is.
Also Floyd. That goes to show that Arum don't give a flying rat's
ass about his fighters. Look at Cotto and clottey? Arum wants
a cut of everything. Not coming down on him for that because it's
up to the boxers/fighters to handle their own business. Arum wanted
Pac to fight Clottey so he could get into business with the Dallas
Cowboy's owner and make extra change. If floyd would have whooped
Pac out on Saturday then all that paper would have went out the
window. There is a lot of aspects to the game most on here don't
take into consideration and that's why ****** name calling and
disrespectful posts pop up on this thread. The name of the game
is called Chess NOT checkers.

[Bigchill79]

A fighter knows another fighter's demeanor but even a true fan could see Clottey complaining to the ref more, not being as active when he saw that Cotto wasn't gonna quit. I could clearly see quit in his eyes. It wasn't the same Clottey down the stretch as when he's having his way in a fight. A champion always figures a way to win. He's not the first to get injured in a fight but a real champion always figures out a way to win especially when he's winning. You don't just stop fighting like in the Cheato fight.

He is a thinking, method fighter... Hes not going to rush on any opponent and morph into Tyson. He picks his spots Like Mayweather -thats who they are. I must have watched a different Cotto fight. He tatooed, and even chased Cotto down for large parts - which is rare for him to do

[FLY TY]

understood but why even bring up the possibility of a fight anymore after you stated your not going to take the test??? why every week do we have to read about roach and pac imitating or fighting floyd if they are not going to adhere to floyds demand?

that's what i've been saying the longest. the *******s come on here and talk **** about floyd mentioning manny in every interview, but at least 3x a week, we have to deal with "freddie roach says........mayweather....pacquiao.....KO.....figh t......next....etc, etc." articles posted on this site. i said yesterday, all this talk coming from roach is a moot point, if top rank plans to hold firm to their position on the drug testing issue.

why is roach talking about the next fight already? the clottey fight is on saturday, they should worry about clottey, after saturday they can talk about facing the winner of floyd vs shane...

that's b/c freddie roach doesn't possibly invision a way for pacquiao to lose to clottey.....neither can i, for that matter.

no actually its wrong because floyd is a hipocrite. he says he is the best but doesnt fight the best out there.

dude you are missing the entire point, has nothing to do with defensive or safe styles

the point is, depending on who you root for, that is who will be considered the "best" fighter. floyd said himself, at this point no matter who he fights there will be excuses for his opponent.

margarito beat cotto, who beat mosley, who beat margarito......


who's the best fighter out of the three?

that's the point, no matter who floyd fights, everybody will just line up the next act, and then he beats them, and there will be excuses, and the next act is lined up. floyd says **** the nonsense, and he fights whoever will line his pockets better.


the "ducking" myth is getting old now, and you dudes really need to come up with more ammunition. floyd was "ducking" shane mosley, according to many of you, then shane becomes his biggest money option, and he signs onto the fight in a couple of weeks. that's all you need to know, right there.

[Sugar Q]

He is a thinking, method fighter... Hes not going to rush on any opponent and morph into Tyson. He picks his spots Like Mayweather -thats who they are. I must have watched a different Cotto fight. He tatooed, and even chased Cotto down for large parts - which is rare for him to do

If he's losing his method fighting isn't working wouldn't you say? Knowing how to finish an opponent is very important cause if you don't know how you end up like Clottey (on the short end of a decision). Maybe you need to rewatch cause if a fighter is winning but ends up losing something happened in there. There was a break down at some point inside of Clottey while Cotto not only fought through adversity but ended up winning. I thought Clottey was over exaggerating the injury and so did the ref.

[slipjab73]

Bob Arum only does things that suits him and works in his favor and
best interest. How is Arum going to say he didn't want to participate
in a De La Hoya fight and the money wasn't there? Floyd made it
happen anyways on his own. I'm sure if Arum could have guaranteed
the 10MIL for Hatton and Cotto them fights and the Margarito fight
would have been made. Floyd is about his business and paper.
Wished most fighters took control of their own careers and had
more say so. De La Hoya left Arum and look how successful he is.
Also Floyd. That goes to show that Arum don't give a flying rat's
ass about his fighters. Look at Cotto and clottey? Arum wants
a cut of everything. Not coming down on him for that because it's
up to the boxers/fighters to handle their own business. Arum wanted
Pac to fight Clottey so he could get into business with the Dallas
Cowboy's owner and make extra change. If floyd would have whooped
Pac out on Saturday then all that paper would have went out the
window. There is a lot of aspects to the game most on here don't
take into consideration and that's why ****** name calling and
disrespectful posts pop up on this thread. The name of the game
is called Chess NOT checkers.

I could not agree more. Bob Arum definitely killed the Pacquaio and Mayweather fight. Arum is the typical greedy promoter. He knows full in well that if Pacquaio loses, he loses. Once Cotto lost to Margarito, he knew his stock value would take a plunge. Oscar was not only a greta boxer but he was a good student when it came down to learning the business side of boxing. Floyd was an up and comer when he too looked at how Oscar made a name for himself and millions to go along with it. The irony is both of these guys figured out a way to get out of contracts with Arum and thus keep their hard earned money in their pockets.

It kills me when I read all these post about Mayweather being a chicken, ducking etc. No man that has ever laced up a pair of boxing gloves and stepped inside that ring as a professional is a chicken. If you have ever competed on an elite level sport such as boxing, wrestling etc you know that the possibility always exist that you can be beat.

To try and compare this generation of boxers with past is totally unfair. Past generations had more to choose from. Even when De La Hoya and Mosley came along, they got the golden eras best as they were on their down side. By the time Mayweather, Pacquaio, Mosley, Cotto, and Margarito go away, the new crop of WW like Alexander and Bradley will be getting this same criticism because they too will be looking for big pay days.

[Sugar Q]

I could not agree more. Bob Arum definitely killed the Pacquaio and Mayweather fight. Arum is the typical greedy promoter. He knows full in well that if Pacquaio loses, he loses. Once Cotto lost to Margarito, he knew his stock value would take a plunge. Oscar was not only a greta boxer but he was a good student when it came down to learning the business side of boxing. Floyd was an up and comer when he too looked at how Oscar made a name for himself and millions to go along with it. The irony is both of these guys figured out a way to get out of contracts with Arum and thus keep their hard earned money in their pockets.

It kills me when I read all these post about Mayweather being a chicken, ducking etc. No man that has ever laced up a pair of boxing gloves and stepped inside that ring as a professional is a chicken. If you have ever competed on an elite level sport such as boxing, wrestling etc you know that the possibility always exist that you can be beat.

To try and compare this generation of boxers with past is totally unfair. Past generations had more to choose from. Even when De La Hoya and Mosley came along, they got the golden eras best as they were on their down side. By the time Mayweather, Pacquaio, Mosley, Cotto, and Margarito go away, the new crop of WW like Alexander and Bradley will be getting this same criticism because they too will be looking for big pay days.

Well said my dude. Guys like you, Grust and others is the reason I come here. It's not even about agreeing all the time but at least let's be real and use logic. We should have an eject button for some of the idiots that come in here.

[Bigchill79]

If he's losing his method fighting isn't working wouldn't you say? Knowing how to finish an opponent is very important cause if you don't know how you end up like Clottey (on the short end of a decision). Maybe you need to rewatch cause if a fighter is winning but ends up losing something happened in there. There was a break down at some point inside of Clottey while Cotto not only fought through adversity but ended up winning. I thought Clottey was over exaggerating the injury and so did the ref.

He 'lost' because Cotto was the bigger name and generates$$$. I take it Clottey could not have been fighting thru adversity? I take it u where in his dressing room and examined his leg??. I take it u actually thought he lost?

[amayseng]

If Shane Mosley isn't the best available than please tell us whom is? It sure aint Clottey or Cotto coming off the Cheato slaughter. You *******s act like Manny beat the unbeaten Cotto or the Oscar Tito fought or even the Hatton right after Zu. All were tainted as hell when they fought Pacroid. Pacroid caught all of them on the downslide.

floyd has been saying this for years, marg was there, cotto, and pwill. he did not fight them.
i give him props for fighting shane now as it is the best fight.

i do think it is pacs fault the fight didnt get made, however, for years floyd has been saying he is the best and the elite when he has had a chance to prove it he didnt.

it is ashame because he is one of the most natural and skilled boxers i have ever seen. he just doesnt deserve to parade around saying he is the best.

hagler hearns leonard duran and all those guys fault eachother, the best out there....

shane has never ducked anyone, on the other hand floyd has been choosey, and that is a fact

[GRUSTLER]

He 'lost' because Cotto was the bigger name and generates$$$. I take it Clottey could not have been fight thru adversity? I take it u where in his dressing room and examined his leg??. I take it u actually thought he lost?

I like Clottey and hope that he wins Saturday because he
deserves it but Clottey is a ball dropper. He is known to
just do enough to lose. He has all the physical attributes
to be on top but for some reason he is missing some hunger.
It would be great for him to beat Pac and get his just due but
he is really going to have to want it more now than ever because
after he lost to Cotto it could have been a wrap for his career but
he got fortunate to land Pacquiao. While Roach and company are
sleeping on Clottey, I hope he takes that and uses it as motivation
to prove that he is a fighter that belongs on top and should be
taken seriously.

[Sugar Q]

He 'lost' because Cotto was the bigger name and generates$$$. I take it Clottey could not have been fight thru adversity? I take it u where in his dressing room and examined his leg??. I take it u actually thought he lost?

I'm old school in my boxing approach my dude. I believe you have to take the title from the champion not be given the title and Clottey did not take that title from Cotto. He had a chance but had a breakdown. Did Clottey win the championship rounds against a guy with an injured eye since the 3rd round of the fight? He allowed Cotto back into the fight and Cotto outworked him. A close decision goes to the champion in my book. Clottey is decent but not a finisher. A known balldropper. That separates the champions from the contenders. Aint nobody tryna here that "my leg hurt" bull**** this is boxing. Go hard or go home.