Pacquiao's jab.

[F l i c k e r]

Well, as I rewatched Floyd-Oscar, I tried to really listen to what Freddie was telling Oscar and pretty much it was use the jab and then come in to the body. Around the 6 or 7th round, Oscar started throwing the jab into Floyd's left shoulder. So, I'm guessing Freddie wanted to to get that high shoulder sore or tired from constant abuse. So Floyd wouldn't be able to shoulder roll effectively.

From what I watch on Pacquiao. I don't see much of a jab. It's like how sunny said, a feeler to drop in the left hand. But I don't see that working with Floyd because Floyd doesn't use a conventional guard. So tapping the guard and dropping in the left isn't as easy to do.

I guess Freddie will come up with a totally new gameplan for Pacquiao if he fights Floyd then. Because from what I tried to see and hear from Freddie's previous gameplan for Floyd, Pacquiao really can't execute that gameplan.

It would be pretty interesting to see Pacquiao with a good jab. Because him lining up with Floyd leaves the left straight down the pipe everytime.

[rao007]

Pacquiao's jab is effective at times---but he usually uses it as feints...watch Oscar fight at the beginning of round 2 when he gives Oscar a good right hook.

[sunny31]

Well, as I rewatched Floyd-Oscar, I tried to really listen to what Freddie was telling Oscar and pretty much it was use the jab and then come in to the body. Around the 6 or 7th round, Oscar started throwing the jab into Floyd's left shoulder. So, I'm guessing Freddie wanted to to get that high shoulder sore or tired from constant abuse. So Floyd wouldn't be able to shoulder roll effectively.

From what I watch on Pacquiao. I don't see much of a jab. It's like how sunny said, a feeler to drop in the left hand. But I don't see that working with Floyd because Floyd doesn't use a conventional guard. So tapping the guard and dropping in the left isn't as easy to do.

I guess Freddie will come up with a totally new gameplan for Pacquiao if he fights Floyd then. Because from what I tried to see and hear from Freddie's previous gameplan for Floyd, Pacquiao really can't execute that gameplan.

It would be pretty interesting to see Pacquiao with a good jab. Because him lining up with Floyd leaves the left straight down the pipe everytime.

I think what you'l find is that roach's strategy for pac will be quite a bit different. See Roach is a very good trainer and he knows what his fighter does well, oscar had a genuinely great left jab and a reach advantage over floyd so that is what freddie told oscar to implement. I don't think the strategy roach devised for oscar was a universal strategy for every fighter against floyd, it was oscar's best shot at winning.

I think for pac he will use different strategy, a lot of head movement, he will probably have pac utilise the fact that he is a southpaw to its maximum advantage, and try and have pac throw a lot of power punches to floyds body. It will be very difficult for pac to pull this win off, in my opinion he can only win by tko/ko. It will also be tough for floyd because the southpaw stance gives him problems, he can be hit more often by southpaws, his shoulder roll isn't as efffective cos it puts him right in line with a straight left hand down the pipe, the angles are different, and I genuinely think pac can ko/tko floyd with one well landed left hand

[Pullcounter]

Can someone give me a good example of when Pacquiao effectively used a good jab to dictate the fight? No bashing type stuff, I'm being serious here. I wanna see what Freddie was thinking when he coached Oscar against Floyd and how it would work with Pacquiao doing it instead.

pac's jab has always been a range finder and blinder for his left cross.

[Khalid X]

Can someone give me a good example of when Pacquiao effectively used a good jab to dictate the fight? No bashing type stuff, I'm being serious here. I wanna see what Freddie was thinking when he coached Oscar against Floyd and how it would work with Pacquiao doing it instead.

There are several ways to go about beating Floyd Mayweather Jr. The best chance Oscar had was using his jab and getting Floyd on the ropes so he can land something big.

Pac, Mosley and others have different skill sets so they will bring their own unique gameplan to the table when they face Floyd.

Pac wont use the jab against floyd and also while the jab is good its not necessary. The jab is key to setting up punches, controlling distance, and to keep opponents at bay.

To break it down (so you know why pac and others don't use it often)

setting up punches- guys like prime roy jones, zab judah, Manny pacquiao and prime shane mosley were so fast that they didn't need the jab to set up there punches. The best analogy I can think of at this moment is a basketball player using a pick to free themselves up. Guys like A.I. (in his prime) Kobe, Dwade and others are so quick that they don't need something like that to do what they do. In similar fashion Judah with his uppercut, Jones Jr. with his left hook and Manny all are so fast that they can lead with there power punches and still land.

Controlling distance- Floyd rarely uses a jab to control distance just like pacquiao because they use there feet and ring IQ to always stay in the range they feel comfortable (and most effective)

Keeping opponents at bay-basically Pac uses his later movement and upperbody movement to get outta the way instead of jab like a Winky Wright or Vernon Forrest. Both are very effective and each boxer uses whats best for them and their style. So basically....there would never be a need for Manny to use a Jab because he has other attributes and strategies to get the same benefits that an effective jab would give.