Pacquiao-Mayweather collapse is about control, not PEDs

[S.G.]

pac came from the lower weights. he asked cotto to fight at 145 and cotto agreed. i'm not really a fan of catchweights but they agreed on it so there's no problem. if cotto did not accept pac's request i wouldn't take it against him the way you take it against somebody who refused floyd's demands

cotto didn't want to put his belt on the line but was bullied into it.

[GT-R]

I think May is a little scare because he said he could die in the ring fighting Pacquiao.

this sums it up.

[mazdaru]

and you believe this bologne you wrote?

[AllEyesOpen]

you get your info where? Did you know Floyd wants to hire his OWN team to do the test,plus have random test done up until 24hrs of the fight.meaning at any time these test can be done. Team Pac said no way! His training camp is intense and wont be interfered by random blood testing.. There has to be a cut off point and Floyd didnt want that.

wrong. wada was willing to do the testing but they can't do it unless it is truely random, which Pacquiao did not allow, therefore they had to go to a third part, which if i recall was agreed upon. What was not agreed upon was the cutoff date, Mayweather said 14 days, Pac refused, he needed about a month or so.

I guess that both Mosley & Mayweather are stronger men the Pacquiao, cause both will be going through intense training with random blood testing.

[Pullcounter]

I think what people are not recognizing is that all this post-negotiation posturing between the Mayweather and Pacquiao camps is a result of the fact that neither of them can actually come out and say that they arent agreeing to the others terms "Because they just dont want to." So now we have Floyd (unconvincingly) acting as the champion for "cleaning up the sport" and Pacquiao (also unconvincingly) coming up with reason after reason for refusing the testing. Pacquiao cannot realistically tell the American sports media, "I'm not agreeing to the testing because i dont like that ****er, and I wont play by his rules, not matter what", not if he wants to cross over into an American sports personality/star. Maywetaher can't sya "Just playin guys I really dont give a **** about testing if it isnt essential for negotiations." not if he wants to maintain his credibility. So you have these two guys playing out the roles they have been cast in. Now its also important to note that Mayweather has won this exchange, as im certain he inteded too. Beng Floyd Mayweather JR., there is no other fighter in the world, besides Pacquiao (and maybe Vlad Klitschko and Bernard Hopkins but they wont be fighting Floyd anytime soon) who can refuse Floyd's testing termsi n a fight contract. Therefore, Mayweather has nothing to lose by merely enforcing testing form here on out in his own fights. Pacquiao on the other hand now has some cleaning up of his image to do, which i think (at least in regards to accusations of PED abuse) is undeserved. If Pacquiao never accepts the terms and fights Mayweather he will have some explaining to do, so essentially hes going to have to accept the terms at some point. it will be interesting to see how team Pacquiao spins it, but regardless I think (and hope) the fight will get made later this year.

yeah, but according to most polls, most people think floyd is using the steroid accusations as an excuse to not fight pac.

[mazdaru]

I think May is a little scare because he said he could die in the ring fighting Pacquiao.

haha, no ******, that shows he feels pac is on something.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

yeah, but according to most polls, most people think floyd is using the steroid accusations as an excuse to not fight pac.

How? Floyd didnt know Pac would act like this. Pac even accepted at first then he back tracked.

How was it to get out the fight when he asked Shane and he agreed the fight was signed.

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[brick wall]

cotto didn't want to put his belt on the line but was bullied into it.

again is that a fact or assumption? if that's a fact then we have a discussion but if you're just assuming then let's not waste our time here.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

again is that a fact or assumption? if that's a fact then we have a discussion but if you're just assuming then let's not waste our time here.

"The idea of presenting a diamond belt came about when Cotto, though agreeing to battle Pacquiao at a catch weight of 145 lb, initially refused to stake his World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight belt unless the Filipino reconsiders fighting at 147."

[Measy1749]

How? Floyd didnt know Pac would act like this. Pac even accepted at first then he back tracked.

How was it to get out the fight when he asked Shane and he agreed the fight was signed.

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people like to ignore this fact just brecause they dont like floyd. had it been the other way around tho...