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    #41
    Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
    No way, I disagree.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with proving beyond the shadow of a doubt that you are clean. Regardless of whether they are baseless accusations(which they are). Shane adhered to them, it's a step in the right direction for the sport whether or not Floyd meant for it to be.

    You see that? You see that right there?

    Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Why is Shane so eager to SUBMIT, (lets call it what it is) to drug tests??

    Because he knows he was already guilty once and this gives him a chance to clear his name.

    Not only this, but it confirms everyones feelings about Shane being so desperate for a fight that he's willing to sell out to get it.

    The only mistake Pac made, was not telling them to **** off outright.

    He should've never even entertained this bull****.

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      #42
      Originally posted by street bully jr View Post
      Submitting to the demands of a baseless accusation and playing into the game is a subconscious admission of guilt.

      If someone I didn't know or respect accused me of something illegal, I wouldn't justify his accusation by submitting to his game.

      Its common sense. Your hatred of Pacquiao prevents you from seeing clearly.
      So you resort to accusing me of blinding hate for Pacquiao because of the weakness of your counter argument?

      If my team was as su****ious, as the Mayweather's appear to be, and kept telling me that my possible opponent was on something and I, myself, had doubts. No doubt I would ask for tests to make sure we were on a level playing field.

      No one that's ever been a boxer would get in a ring against an excellent opponent, if they thought he was roided.

      Boxing isn't pushing, pulling, and tackling guys with pads on or throwing, catching, and hitting a little ball. It's an individual sport where there are no timeouts and the main goal is to inflict as much punishment on your opponent as possible.

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        #43
        Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
        So you resort to accusing me of blinding hate for Pacquiao because of the weakness of your counter argument?

        If my team was as su****ious, as the Mayweather's appear to be, and kept telling me that my possible opponent was on something and I, myself, had doubts. No doubt I would ask for tests to make sure we were on a level playing field.

        No one that's ever been a boxer would get in a ring against an excellent opponent, if they thought he was roided.

        Boxing isn't pushing, pulling, and tackling guys with pads on or throwing, catching, and hitting a little ball. It's an individual sport where there are no timeouts and the main goal is to inflict as much punishment on your opponent as possible.
        My argument is air tight. Its yours that is weak.

        His team is su****ious based on absolutely NOTHING.

        His daddy said it and now he believes it? Thats all the CONCRETE evidence he has which is really ****.

        In the court of law you need ACTUAL evidence before you bring someone to trial on an accusation of wrong doing.

        The Mayweathers have NOTHING.

        Pacquiao is wise not to submit to baseless accusations.

        This is the same reason police need an arrest warrant to come into your house. If we lived in the world of Mayweathers police or anyone else for that matter could come search you or your house just because they had a su****ion about you.

        Sorry pal, it doesn't work that way.

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          #44
          Originally posted by street bully jr View Post
          You see that? You see that right there?

          Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Why is Shane so eager to SUBMIT, (lets call it what it is) to drug tests??

          Because he knows he was already guilty once and this gives him a chance to clear his name.

          Not only this, but it confirms everyones feelings about Shane being so desperate for a fight that he's willing to sell out to get it.

          The only mistake Pac made, was not telling them to **** off outright.

          He should've never even entertained this bull****.
          Sell out to what? Something that SHOULD be included in all boxing matches.

          This is what I mean. There are things you take a stand against and things you don't take a stand against. Cleaning up the sport is NOT something you take a stand against. It really is that simple, it's horrible PR.

          Now I'm not accusing Pac of taking steroids. Personally, I think these are just two egos not wanting to cave to each other. I just think Pac should have picked his battle more wisely.

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            #45
            Originally posted by street bully jr View Post
            I hope that Pacquiao stands firm and doesn't play this sick game.

            If he SUBMITS to anything Floyd or his team asks for that is an admission of guilt and it puts him at a psychological disadvantage from the beginning.

            He needs to stand firm and NEVER allow himself to be dictated to by any member of THAT team.

            He doesn't owe them anything. If Floyd wants it, he can get it but he has to check himself and his bull**** at the door.

            PEDS won't decide the outcome of this fight anyway.
            So Pac should be applauded for not proving that he is innocent of using any PED's and stopping the biggest boxing event in history. And I guess Cotto shouldn't be applauded, because he gave in to Pac's demands...

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              #46
              smh....its only a drug test....They are not taking him up in a space ship and giving him **** probes..smh pac fans

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                #47
                Originally posted by street bully jr View Post
                My argument is air tight. Its yours that is weak.

                His team is su****ious based on absolutely NOTHING.

                His daddy said it and now he believes it? Thats all the CONCRETE evidence he has which is really ****.

                In the court of law you need ACTUAL evidence before you bring someone to trial on an accusation of wrong doing.

                The Mayweathers have NOTHING.

                Pacquiao is wise not to submit to baseless accusations.

                This is the same reason police need an arrest warrant to come into your house. If we lived in the world of Mayweathers police or anyone else for that matter could come search you or your house just because they had a su****ion about you.

                Sorry pal, it doesn't work that way.
                It doesn't matter why his team and him are su****ious what the su****ions are based on. What matters is that they are su****ious and that there is doubt. It's not the court of law (does that really have to be pointed out?), they don't need CONCRETE evidence to be su****ious enough to demand stricter steroid tests.

                Besides, if you really want to go there, Roach and Ariza have had boxers caught using steroids under their watch. And they were caught each in separate cases.

                Again, this isn't the court of law, it's the court of public opinion. And Pacquiao is losing his case and will continue to lose it, if he follows your advice.

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                  #48
                  Mayweathers have zero credibility now since theyre bringing up A-side Meth.

                  First they said it was roids.

                  Now theyre claiming manny is bullet proof (wtf). Originally random blood tests was the fear of HGH and some other exotic drug being undetected within a matter of hours, we all know its bull****. Its just a way of floyd the diva trying to make his own rules.


                  a-side meth has nothing to do with random blood testing. Was olympic style testing designed for this a-side meth ****? Do olympians take a-side meth to enhance their performance? wtf is a side meth. This is the degree of ******ity brought on by the mayweathers and their dumb fans are still trying to defend it.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
                    It doesn't matter why his team and him are su****ious what the su****ions are based on. What matters is that they are su****ious and that there is doubt. It's not the court of law (does that really have to be pointed out?), they don't need CONCRETE evidence to be su****ious enough to demand stricter steroid tests.

                    Besides, if you really want to go there, Roach and Ariza have had boxers caught using steroids under their watch. And they were caught each in separate cases.

                    Again, this isn't the court of law, it's the court of public opinion. And Pacquiao is losing his case and will continue to lose it, if he follows your advice.
                    You're saying it would be good PR for Packy to be Mayweather's little monkey and submitting to his demands?

                    Pac is a world class professional who has never failed any tests or anything for that matter.

                    Why should he entertain an accusation that originated in the mind of Mayweather Sr?

                    Think about what you're saying here.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
                      Ridiculous. He might feel that he's at a psychological disadvantage, but for it to be considered an admission of guilt is ****ing ridiculous.

                      As is, he has a dark cloud of su****ion over his head. If he accepts and passes all the tests, while looking like Pacquiao has looked for a good chunk of his career (no matter the end result) he would have removed any doubt.


                      The accusations thrown at Pacquiao are/were ridiculous, but Mayweather has a right to know if his opponent is on something illegal before he steps into the ring against him.

                      If you don't want to know, that's on you. Good riddance.
                      This fight will never happen and we got to get over it... the only way manny can come out of this mess is if he wins against floyd and looks like his normal self... but im saying it now, that is never going to happen.... look at it from mannys position now... if he takes the test and he's found clean but then goes on to lose to pbf or even look bad doing so (which is not out of the realm because floyd makes everyone look bad), everyone is going to say look he was on peds the whole time! If he takes the test is found dirty he's screwed... the only way he can clear his name now is by taking the blood tests and beating floyd... or make it a close fight... IMO

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