Can MARGARITO beat CINTRON legitamely?

[mangler jr]

I also feel that Margarito cheated in their fights. I've never seen someone who looks like he doesn't hit hard at all make so much damage.

Notice, this is my opinion, and if you look at the facts, they point towards the fact that Margarito was always loading his gloves before fights.

What "facts"?

The fact that he was approved by every world class commission he's ever fought in front of?

And he didn't look like he hit hard huh?

Ask Golden Johnson how hard he hit. Ask all the guys he lit up in 6 rounds or less how hard he hit?

You can easily tell he hits hard by how much torque he gets on his shots. He throws the best uppercuts in the business. That dude is a power puncher.

[Eaner0919]

if he has cheated for those fights then how long has he been doing this?

I told a bunch of you that the only welterweights who have lasted in the ring with Tony since 99 are

Williams- who prior to Martinez had never been down
Clottey- who prior to Cotto had never been hurt or down
Perez- never been stopped in his career

so some of you crybabies can sit there and whine about how this fighter would have won or that this fighter is ruined that but at least know about the subject matter

"his power became more after the _____ fight"

bwahahahaha GTFOH

[Boxing Scene]

What "facts"?

The fact that he was approved by every world class commission he's ever fought in front of?

And he didn't look like he hit hard huh?

Ask Golden Johnson how hard he hit. Ask all the guys he lit up in 6 rounds or less how hard he hit?

You can easily tell he hits hard by how much torque he gets on his shots. He throws the best uppercuts in the business. That dude is a power puncher.

You're talking about a proven cheater. Before you go around slinging crap about how hard he hits, you better consider the fact that HE GOT CAUGHT TRYING TO CHEAT with loaded gloves. You have no idea if he loaded them against Golden Johnson or anyone else for that matter. He could have been loading them his whole career. And if he does hit that hard, how come he didn't ever even phase Mosley without his weapons?

FYI, Golden Johnson is a joke. Even before he was shot Shane Mosley knocked him out. In fact, he's been knocked out FOUR times.

You're bragging about Margarito beating a guy who lost to third tier boxers and was old and fighting way above his real division.

The guy finally got caught and now you're butt hurt because he can't get a license.

[Eaner0919]

I also feel that Margarito cheated in their fights. I've never seen someone who looks like he doesn't hit hard at all make so much damage.

Notice, this is my opinion, and if you look at the facts, they point towards the fact that Margarito was always loading his gloves before fights.

so then Capetillo must be some sly fox to have gotten away with it considering

NYSAC
NSAC
NJSAC
CSAC

all have approved the wraps with witnesses there

also

if this is indeed the case then are

Manny Steward
George Peterson
Jesse James Lejia (Golden Johnsons trainer)

idiots for overlooking this?

too many holes

you all can have your opinions but at least use something factual to fortify it

[Boxing Scene]

so then Capetillo must be some sly fox to have gotten away with it considering

NYSAC
NSAC
NJSAC
CSAC

all have approved the wraps with witnesses there

also

if this is indeed the case then are

Manny Steward
George Peterson
Jesse James Lejia (Golden Johnsons trainer)

idiots for overlooking this?

too many holes

you all can have your opinions but at least use something factual to fortify it

People cheat all the time and don't get caught, and you can't for one second tell me all of a sudden this guy can't punch when he fights Mosley. This coming off a destruction of Cotto.

Don't make me laugh.

Could he have cheated in all those fights and not got caught? ****in a buddy, it definitely could have happened.

[mangler jr]

You're talking about a proven cheater. Before you go around slinging crap about how hard he hits, you better consider the fact that HE GOT CAUGHT TRYING TO CHEAT with loaded gloves. You have no idea if he loaded them against Golden Johnson or anyone else for that matter. He could have been loading them his whole career. And if he does hit that hard, how come he didn't ever even phase Mosley without his weapons?

FYI, Golden Johnson is a joke. Even before he was shot Shane Mosley knocked him out. In fact, he's been knocked out FOUR times.

You're bragging about Margarito beating a guy who lost to third tier boxers and was old and fighting way above his real division.

He's not a proven cheater. Not even close. The commission was there until Richardson started his bull****. This is all his fault. The pads he was using only constitute an infraction under CSAC rules.

This is not serious at all, they found no plaster, and this whole thing is politically motivated.

Anyone without a boner for Margarito from the beginning already knows this.

Golden was just an example, Margarito's lit up a lot of fighters (like Cintron) all within 6 rounds.

He had Paul Williams seriously hurt in their fight. He beat he career out of Cotto.

He lost to Mosley, so you assume he had didn't have plaster? Nice logic.

Losing to a world class, future hall of famer means you've been a cheater all your life?

lol...

You forget Margarito was not even close to fighting shape for that fight and that Mosley tied him up at every opportunity.

All you got is an opinion and it sounds like you never liked him to begin with, so now you're being an opportunist piling on the guy while he's down.

[Eaner0919]

People cheat all the time and don't get caught, and you can't for one second tell me all of a sudden this guy can't punch when he fights Mosley. This coming off a destruction of Cotto.

Don't make me laugh.

Could he have cheated in all those fights and not got caught? ****in a buddy, it definitely could have happened.

this is flawed

first off he didnt really land anything against Shane. Shane largely turned away from Tony for long stretches.

also Mosley has a great chin only being dropped once by the headbutt/uppercut combo of Vernon Forrest.

go ahead and laugh all you want but you have no proof only speculation

and again so you are saying all of the above I mentioned are inept at what they are supposed to do?

[lefthook2daliva]

I always have thought that Cintron was a better fighter then Margarito. So my question is can Margarito beat Cintron without his weapons in a fair fight?

Probably, but Margarito has forfeited the right to prove it, imo.

[407BoriKua]

He's not a proven cheater. Not even close. The commission was there until Richardson started his bull****. This is all his fault. The pads he was using only constitute an infraction under CSAC rules.

This is not serious at all, they found no plaster, and this whole thing is politically motivated.

Anyone without a boner for Margarito from the beginning already knows this.

Golden was just an example, Margarito's lit up a lot of fighters (like Cintron) all within 6 rounds.

He had Paul Williams seriously hurt in their fight. He beat he career out of Cotto.

He lost to Mosley, so you assume he had didn't have plaster? Nice logic.

Losing to a world class, future hall of famer means you've been a cheater all your life?

lol...

You forget Margarito was not even close to fighting shape for that fight and that Mosley tied him up at every opportunity.

All you got is an opinion and it sounds like you never liked him to begin with, so now you're being an opportunist piling on the guy while he's down.

blah blah blah you sound like a lil ***** making excuses he got caught with loaded wraps u dumb ****. U still but hurt just like when i whooped ur ass and u got kod in fnr4 u were talking all that **** like ur pathetic ass always does and got beat down easily. Then started making excuses like a mark ass trick. Get over it your man got caught he a fraud he a cheater and acted like he didnt kno about it. Also you act like oh its bull**** he never had **** but his own trainer said he did it so his trainers admitting to it and you still don't wanna believe it?

[Chuckguy]

this is a funny thread

woulda shoulda coulda
we will never know

The one thing we do know for sure is that Cintron is a known cry baby and he has no I repeat NO heart
thats why he loses
If he had heart he would have gotten up and outboxed Tony
He is over rated and I think Margs would knock him out a third time

LMAO at that one poster comparing SSM use to margs
hahaah
dude those were undetectable at that time
there was not a test to prove that at that time
where as the wraps are suppose to be checked and someone from the other camp is suppose to witness the wrappings for every fight.