Comments Thread For: Pacquiao vs Margarito The Possible November Plan

[mazdaru]

I'll watch the fight either way, but I didn't look at it like that. I'd rather see Mayweather-Pac, but I am actually stoked for this fight now. I never wish ill will on great athletes like fighters, but someone Margarito deserves a beat down (Mosley beat down was great, but not enough).

Calling Margarito a cheater is too nice. He's a criminal. He attempted assault against Mosley with two deadly weapons.

they are both cheaters

[mazdaru]

He already faced backlash with the whole Olympic Style test he didn't want to take. I love Pacquiao and Roach, but we all know Arum calls the shots. If Arum wanted Pac to take the Olympic style tests, Pac vs. Mayweather would be happening next month.
Even Roach said he wasn't too thrilled with fighting Cotto and Pac as usual just smiled and took the fight. I am glad Cotto-Pac happened, at least Arum did something right.

and there you go believing more of roach's BS...sheep

[Ido]

I doubt Marg has any real face value, at this point.

If Floyd, and Manny make it through their bouts I think that's the next avenue.

[mazdaru]

I agree with what you are saying,but you forgot to mention that Manny's last 4 fighters have also been left hand dominant that fought out of an orthodox stance (except for Diaz-who was southpaw anyways).His last 4 opponents are "come-forward" fighters with very limited defense.Most of them cannot punch while on the move,they need to plant their feet (stand still to punch), and were marquee names that have come off a severe loss by stoppage or were undeniably at the end of their once great careers yet never displayed the same confidence or skills after their defeats.This seems to be the perfect candidate for Manny.
If you are a good boxer with a right hand,defense or any countering skills-Manny don't want none.It was 5 fights ago that Manny fought someone with a right hand-is that a coincidence???!!! His career is being paved by Arum to look as if he is the next "Sugar Ray Robinson" of our era... it is deceptive,yet makes Arum more money from the idiots who cannot look beneath the surface...

good post homie. im seriously thinking about canceling my acct. this site is overrun with ignorance

[PAPOBOXING]

I have been saying for a while now that Arum would put Manny against Margarito!

Bob Arum will not let Manny fight any fighters outside of Top Rank. Bob can pay off his fighters and tell them to lose like he did with Clottey on the Cotto fight. I posted a video about this before it was ever mentioned to the public. Go to Youtube and type in the search Manny Pacquiao (All time great). Enjoy boxing fans and Pacnuts becareful you will not like what I posted. Hahahahaha

[Perroskis]

Only d!ck riders agree to this fight lol, I guess lets not attempt to fight Floyd if he wins but instead fight a cheater who got his ass handed against the man who Floyd is fighting in May.... Yea what a stepping stone in Manny's career

dont you mean the man that floyd was cornered into fighting

[Perroskis]

Manny is not a featherweight. The last time he fought at that weight was 2004! I guess then that Mayweather and Cotto are really Jr. Welterweights? That was their weight in '04. Roach said Manny moved up after fighting Diaz becasue he could no longer make 135 and that his best fighting weight is now 145. So how can a guy who walked into the ring weighing 149 for his only Lightweight fight and 146 for the second Marquez at Jr. Lightweight be considered a Featherweight? The "Manny is the smaller guy" excuse is getting old. He is the same size as Roberto Duran (half an inch shorter with an inch longer reach) and Roberto fought Marvin Hagler and three future Lightheavyweight champions (Hearns,Barkley and Leonard) without asking for special consideration because he was the "smaller guy".

Yes, Roy was ducking Lewis. If Lewis were undisputed at the time, Jones goes nowhere near the Heavyweights. Jones did what Pacquiao did against David Diaz. He beat the weakest and most vulnerable titlist and called himself a "champion" without fighting anyone of quality in that division, and did not even bother to defend the "championship".

diaz was his first fight at 135 wtf you talking about

[Ringthebell]

diaz was his first fight at 135 wtf you talking about

Yes, I know that. After that fight, Roach said that making 135 was too difficult as he came in the ring at 149. Doug Fischer from Ring magazine refers to this very thing stemming from a converstation with Roach. It is in the following link on a Pacquiao website (just above where it says MONDAY MAILBAG).

[Dave Rado]

lol isn't this something that Mayweather would get bashed for???

No more than Pac is being bashed for it. Haven't you read the thread?

[Dave Rado]

America has been cheating since the father time and time again and again you guys give your people a second chance, but since it's a MEXICAN doing it you people start crying like the whimps you guys are!

Luis Resto (born June 11, 1955) is a former welterweight professional boxer from Bronx, New York.

On June 16, 1983 Resto unexpectedly beat undefeated prospect Billy Collins Jr at Madison Square Garden in New York City in a 10-round unanimous decision. The fight was the undercard for a bout between Roberto Durán and Davey Moore.

However, Collins' father and trainer, Billy, Sr., discovered that Resto's gloves were thinner than normal. When Billy, Sr. reached out to shake Resto's hand, he felt only leather over fist. Screaming that he thought the gloves had no padding, Collins, Sr. demanded that the New York State Athletic Commission impound the gloves. An investigation revealed that someone had removed an ounce of padding from each of his gloves. However, it was obvious even before then that the gloves had been altered. Collins' eyes were swollen shut by the end of the 10th round, and the rest of his face was so badly swollen that it was impossible to believe a light puncher could have inflicted such damage.[1]

Collins suffered a torn iris and permanently blurred vision, ending his career. He died only months later when he drove his car into a culvert while intoxicated. Some commentators have speculated that the loss of his livelihood drove him into a downward spiral. Collins' father has since postulated that his son committed suicide[4][5]

After a month's investigation, the New York State Boxing Commission determined that Resto's trainer, Panama Lewis, had removed the padding from Resto's gloves. It also determined that Resto should have known the gloves were illegal. The commission suspended Resto's boxing license for at least a year. Since most state boxing commissions honor sanctions from other states, this effectively banned Resto from boxing in the United States.[1] Resto's win was subsequently changed to a no contest.[3]

In 1986, Lewis and Resto were both put on trial and found guilty of assault, criminal possession of a weapon (Resto's hands) and conspiracy. Prosecutors charged that the bout amounted to an illegal assault on Collins and that Resto should have known that the padding had been removed from his gloves. Resto served 2.5 years in prison.[1]

Margarito got off ridiculously lightly.