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    Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
    You are something else. Mayweather would have the reach advantage REGARDLESS of the weight class. You thinking before you post?

    So, its fine for Hatton to have the weight advantage, but when someone else does, its not?

    If Floyd outweighed Hatton on fight night, provide proof.
    i know this. i was trying to show that hatton is not a welterweight. im not saying its fine for hatton to have an advantage, im just showing that its always gotta be floyd with the advantage. we dont know what they weighed on fight night because mayweather always refuses to do so. wonder why?

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      Originally posted by El Castigador View Post
      I knew this would happen. If Pac does 400k and Floyd does 1.5 Million. 50-50 aint happening.
      Rightfully so. Pac was lucky to get 50-50 in the first place considering Floyd done better numbers with all 3 common opponents.
      Last edited by RoyJonesJrp4pno1; 02-14-2010, 10:58 AM.

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        It wasn't going to happen to begin with

        This fight was never going to happen to begin with. Once the first part of the negotiations fell apart I knew it wasn't going to happen. These 2 fighters have too much pride and both of them is beyond arrogant. First Pacquiao doesn't except the terms from the first contract and used a simple drug test as an excuse to back out the fight. Now Floyd wants to do the drug test all the way up to the fight. That is ****** keep the 14 day cut off, so there won't be any excuses when you beat him. The money part I really can careless about, because Floyd would be champ by actually beating a champion at 147 and his ppv numbers are always bigger with common opponents.

        Everyone try to look at the good side to this. Now neither fighter can continue to take on easy fights. They have to take dangerous opponents who has a chance of winning just to sell ppvs. Paul Williams, Berto, Martinez, Cintron, and etc...
        Last edited by tru2boxingfan; 02-14-2010, 10:57 AM. Reason: Mispelled

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          Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
          i get you now. its just in your previous post when you said "Hatton fought TWICE more after that Luis fight at 147."

          we know this anyways, but still those were at light welterweight. whats the point your trying to make?
          The point I'm trying to make is the one that I have been making through posting this whole thread, Hatton fought at 147 before and he and his trainer had NO problem going back to 147 to fight Mayweather.

          You dissed Floyd for fighting Hatton at 147 saying Floyd should have fought him at Hatton's best weight. But you want to credit Manny for going up to 140 to fight Hatton, using what you said earlier, Hatton should have fought Manny at Manny's best weight, 130. But he didn't, Hatton made Pac move up to his divison to fight him, which was 140. Floyd made Hatton move up to his divison to fight him, which was 147. Oscar made Floyd move up to his divison to fight him, which was 154. This is boxing, it happens.

          Call a spade a spade.

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            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            That pretty much sums it up. I think a lot of
            people think Manny should get more or is the biggest
            draw because they like Manny and hate Floyd but
            from an over all perspective, Manny has yet to
            top Floyd.
            you know i alway's got to say something to you man.i like floyd and i some what agree with your list but hatton ko by floyd pac did it better i think even tho pac beat hoya floyd beat a better hoya (both were not the same one that was in with mosley and vargas)cotto was also done when pac got to him and money has judah.right there it look's like money is in the better postion untill i see marquez for pac and morales and barrera pac has hof after hof pac has the better resume sorry

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              Originally posted by davidoff View Post
              It's equally unfair to use the common opponent comparison due to how much has changed since FMJ and Pac fought their common opponents.

              Pac's hugh surge in popularity after the DLH fight and his spectacular Hatton KO made him the hottest thing in boxing, especially after he confirmed he was moving up to such a competitive division.

              He could have been a ***** and asked for more than 50-50 after the Cotto fight did better, but he didn't.
              Really? So Pac needed Cotto (the biggest latin fighter in the world) to get 1.25 while PBF got over a million with Marquez who nobody outside of a true boxing fan knows? Pac/Oscar would have never did the numbers Oscar/PBF did because Oscar was coming off horrible performances when he fought Pac but was champion at 154 when he fought PBF the economy had nothing to do with it. Undefeated champion vs undefeated champion is always a huge event which is why PBF/Hatton was far bigger than Hatton/Pac. Floyd should've demanded 60/40 the first time. There shouldnt even be a conversation about anything less at this point.

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                Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
                i know this. i was trying to show that hatton is not a welterweight. im not saying its fine for hatton to have an advantage, im just showing that its always gotta be floyd with the advantage. we dont know what they weighed on fight night because mayweather always refuses to do so. wonder why?
                Dude, provide facts and not speculations.

                I've seen many times Floyd's fight night weight on HBO.

                Oscar had EVERY ADVANTAGE against Mayweather.

                How you feel about that?

                What advantages did he have against Hatton?

                What advantages did Floyd have against Castillo I & II, Chico, Gernaro Hernandez, Manfredy, Jesus Chavez??

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                  Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
                  The point I'm trying to make is the one that I have been making through posting this whole thread, Hatton fought at 147 before and he and his trainer had NO problem going back to 147 to fight Mayweather.

                  You dissed Floyd for fighting Hatton at 147 saying Floyd should have fought him at Hatton's best weight. But you want to credit Manny for going up to 140 to fight Hatton, using what you said earlier, Hatton should have fought Manny at Manny's best weight, 130. But he didn't, Hatton made Pac move up to his divison to fight him, which was 140. Floyd made Hatton move up to his divison to fight him, which was 147. Oscar made Floyd move up to his divison to fight him, which was 154. This is boxing, it happens.

                  Call a spade a spade.
                  ok

                  he had 1 fight at the weight before, didnt look very good all be it he won a title.

                  im not really saying he should have fought hatton at his best weight. im saying he should have been fighting true welterweights. whilst billy wanted to move to 147 to face floyd, it is still clear that any welterweight would have had physical advantages over hatton. my main issue with that fight was the ref. im pretty certain it wouldnt have changed things much, but that ref didnt let hatton work, the millisecond hatton got on the inside the ref was straight in there.

                  with the hatton should have fought manny at his best weight, it looks pretty apparent that his best weight is nearly all the divisions!

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                    another reason for Floyd to duck Pacman

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                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      floyd's ducking the fight. he don't want it. never did.
                      Just like he never wanted Shane? Where's all that **** you had in ya sig now? Go climb back in your hole

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