Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Pacquiao Can Forget 50-50 if Our PPV Wins

[Puntoyhauf]

Sr. didn't want it to happen...Why the heck would Jr. want the fight?
Sr. made an excuse why Pac beat Cotto. Jr. making an excuse so that people with lesser logic would not think he is duckin Pacquiao.

He is an insecure punk. Why? because Manny accomplished what no other boxers (who even actually caught with steroids) has ever accomplished first.
Pac was declared fighter of the decade.

The logic is simple, other boxers were tested by the comission, other boxers were caught using PEDs. out of all the boxers... why can't they accomplish what pac had accomplish? simple.., PEDs don't win you titles and record breaking accomplishments, Mosley barely won against his fights with Oscar while he's on PEDs.

Idiots and only idiots believe in their hearts and minds that Pacquiao is cheating.

Pacquiao's legacy is unbelievable right? it's almost like fiction... more fiction than the Rocky movie. But true fans of boxing could only see the truth that Pacquiao has improved as a fighter.

When Pacquiao was at the lower weights he was tagged with punches from MAB, Morales, and JMM, punches that other boxers were KOed cold. How can a boxer shedding weight take steroids? it's clear that Manny can take a punch and recuperate fast (see Larios-Pac fight).

Even Sr. knows that but since he knew Pac is dangerous against his son... he made this accuisation that Pac is on something.

[ThunderWolf]

IT`s nice to see though that Floyd Mayweather seems to have a big problem, it is pretty obvious.

And Manny Pacquiao is just silent, enjoying the view and happy right now.

Floyd is suffering, he has a dilemma, if you know what that means.

[amonb]

I knew this would happen. If Pac does 400k and Floyd does 1.5 Million. 50-50 aint happening.

This is all about publicity. Don't worry. Everything that has gone on was planned. They realised that march was too soon to create this fight so they're both gonna be talking all this bull****. They know that this will be the only chance to make some SERIOUS money so they're gonna milk until they fight end of this year or the beginning of the next.

[check hook]

It's pretty simple people.....if u have a compelling reason as to why you should get the bigger slice of the pie you will use it.

Pac got 50/50 becasue he did 250K more buys fighting Cotto than Floyd did fighting JMM. Without having fough Cotto first there was no way Pac was going to get 50%.......he had lesser PPV numbers against ODLH, Hatton and JMM than Floyd did.....THAT IS FACT!!!! So if Floyd doubles Pac in PPV numbers he has every right to ask for more of the pie. If Pac v Clottey does better numbers ....then Pac has the right to a bigger slice. That is how boxing works.

Also i would like to point out certain facts you all seem to be missing. The provision for random blood testing was in the contract from the very beginning. Team Pac (or to be more accurate Roach) said it would be no problem.

Now Pac fans this is the time to ask yourself [B]when exactly did the random testing become a deal breaker?[/B]

For the first few weeks negotiations were going well.... it was not put forward as an issue initially. The reason for that is obvious. Team Pac did not expect Floyd to be so accomodating in negotiations and were even managing expectations to this effect with their comments in the media regarding Floyd being difficult to negotiate with. Floyd accepted 50/50 and 8 oz gloves and a $10 mil per pound penalty. Team Pac were hoping Floyd would be difficult with the $$ split or the penalty so they could lay blame at his feet when they said NO to the fight. It was only after Floyd agreed to everything in the first few weeks of negotaiations that the drug testing became an issue for team Pac.

Pac is doing the same thing he has already done before. He ducked Raheem after he outboxed and whipped Morales and now is ducking floyd who beat JMM. Pac and Roach are desperately hoping SSM can beat Floyd or put him through a war.

Freddie Roach : "I want the fight, but i just need Manny to see what i see" ------> this is a quote from Freddie regarding a fight with Mayweather. It basically implies that Roach wants the fight but manny is reticent.

Freddie Roach and Pac do not fight slick boxers who can use their feet effectively, counterpunch and throw a right hand. We all know what he told SSM when he went down to Wildcard and asked for a fight with Pac.

[Sugar Ram]

Sr. didn't want it to happen...Why the heck would Jr. want the fight?
Sr. made an excuse why Pac beat Cotto. Jr. making an excuse so that people with lesser logic would not think he is duckin Pacquiao.

He is an insecure punk. Why? because Manny accomplished what no other boxers (who even actually caught with steroids) has ever accomplished first.
Pac was declared fighter of the decade.

The logic is simple, other boxers were tested by the comission, other boxers were caught using PEDs. out of all the boxers... why can't they accomplish what pac had accomplish? simple.., PEDs don't win you titles and record breaking accomplishments, Mosley barely won against his fights with Oscar while he's on PEDs.

Idiots and only idiots believe in their hearts and minds that Pacquiao is cheating.

Pacquiao's legacy is unbelievable right? it's almost like fiction... more fiction than the Rocky movie. But true fans of boxing could only see the truth that Pacquiao has improved as a fighter.

When Pacquiao was at the lower weights he was tagged with punches from MAB, Morales, and JMM, punches that other boxers were KOed cold. How can a boxer shedding weight take steroids? it's clear that Manny can take a punch and recuperate fast (see Larios-Pac fight).

Even Sr. knows that but since he knew Pac is dangerous against his son... he made this accuisation that Pac is on something.

Splendid post! green k!

[2120]

If someone called you a bastard and son of a whore, would you take a DNA test to prove your accuser wrong?

if there was 40 million dollar payday on the line and the accuser had to take the same test than yes. i would be ****** not too and pass up on 40 million dollar payday. pac doesnt have to prove anything floyd or anyone else and your scenario makes perfect sense until you include the fact that pac is passing up 40 million dollar payday and floyd has to take the same test. like i said pac does not have too prove anything to anyone but he has worked to hard to let this kinda money pass by especially since pac is clean

[Sugar Ram]

First of all manny did not make those demands,it roach who said that(10million for every pound that he was over)

manny didnt wanna take something whiich no fighter in the history of the sport was asked to take! is that wrong?? if floyd says that he is better than ray robinson,ray leonard and ali,in other words the best fighter in the entire history,WHY DONT HE JUST **** THE TEST AND FIGHT!

If sergio martinez says he will fight chavez jr with steriods or not,why cant floyd do the same??

IF floyd didnt bring this issue up,none of u ****ing ****ers would be talking like this! Simply believe Whatever Floyd says..And if floyd says that the world will end on 2012 Then ****ing believe it coz he Probably saw it earlier then the mayan civilisation!

[mrjoeblive]

Once again, your hypocricy is showing. Of course I want boxing to be clean.. no PEDS, no HGH, no steroids, no xylocaine! And you know what, I have a secret to tell you... MANNY PACQUIAO has never been tested positive from all these substances in ALL the tests he underwent. And if that secret is not enough for you, they were all the same tests that MAYWEATHER and other boxers have undergone.

How can you call yourself a fan of boxing when you do not even know those secrets? How can you call yourself a fan of boxing when you don't even know that what has Pacquiao done was already done by other great boxers before him.

hey geuss what? i have a secret for you and you may be the onlyone that didnt know this secret. shane mosley took the same test that pac took and you know what, he passed them all!!! only to later admit he was on three substances they were not DETECTED by the test he took. this why we desperatly need a change in testing protocals. so i geuss you dont know the secret right??? and mcgwire has never failed the test taken barry bonds has never failed a test look the lisy goes on and on your argument appears to be made of swiss cheese. you say my hipocracy is showing, really you never once said you want the sport of boxing to be clean. you just leaped into the same old tired name calling that some like to engage in. if you are a fan of boxing you should be able to talk boxing without the name calling. and because i dont agree with you that dont make me a hipocrite. you are using that word out of context.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

if you type in floyd mayweather is gay on google you actually get multiple results of pro gay sites writing articles questioning floyd's ***uality.

[2120]

If you are offered to sleep with a ********** for free and you decline is this absolute proof that you are a f@ggot?

This is actually a freedom of choice. Plain and simple. As in some peeps keep rabbit`s foot for luck.

if there was a 40 million dollar payday after i ****** the hooker than yes. pac doesnt have too prove anything to floyd but it was a bad decision financially especially since pac is clean