Are we giving ****m Richardson too much credit for Shane?

[AllEyesOpen]

I mean, hes a great trainer and surely an improvement in the corner from his daddy. But seeing again how Shane fought Margarito, i see nothing different from when he fought Vargas. I believe Shane just knows how to fight certain fighters, especially those who come forward plodding away, have a slow jab, flat footed and fight from the front foot.

He didnt execute that well against Cotto because he expected a brawling Cotto, and found a quick jabbing Cotto...that also maybe wasnt his best night.

Thoughts?

with gems like "swim without getting wet" how can we not.

[Pretty Boy Greg]

I mean, hes a great trainer and surely an improvement in the corner from his daddy. But seeing again how Shane fought Margarito, i see nothing different from when he fought Vargas. I believe Shane just knows how to fight certain fighters, especially those who come forward plodding away, have a slow jab, flat footed and fight from the front foot.

He didnt execute that well against Cotto because he expected a brawling Cotto, and found a quick jabbing Cotto...that also maybe wasnt his best night.

Thoughts?

his timing with margarito was very impressive... he just kept doing the same thing that fight and there was nothing margarito could do... I was a lil disappointed in marges corner because they never changed up and marge kept walking into those right hooks all damn night

[Pretty Boy Greg]

I don't think ****m can get too much credit at the moment as he's a fantastic tactician and motivator - quite possibly the best around at the moment - however I do think his significance in the forthcoming Mosley fight may be being overstated.

He's a great asset but won't be nearly enough to beat Floyd. If Mosley does manage to pull off the win it will be primarily down to Mosley's perseverance on the night as I don't think him, Nasim and anyone else they consult can collectively out-manouvre Floyd.

agree... ****m is a very underrated trainer though

[Bushbaby]

Naazim is not underrated,more like under appreciated!!The B-hop-Calazghe fight is not a good example of Naazim looking bad,the fight was close,but there,B-hop's style has always been to slow the fight down!!Calzaghe by nature is a pure volume puncher!!He simply continued his volume to a close win!!

Against Margarito,that was a perfect stategy for fighting him!!Shane traded then held & pivoted & slugged some more,don't act like anyone expected Mosley to dominate,don't do that!!Regardless of how anyone feels,the fact is Floyd was offered a fight against Margarito, who called him out to his face man!!So there is not a fact that Floyd could really beat Margarito!!I know Floyd has stayed away from welterweights 2 biggest pure pressure fighters for a reason!!Mosley has the size & stamina to apply serious pressure on Floyd,that's why Floyd was hesitant!!Naazim is not overrated & not even a Floyd fan has the right to discredit him just because you support Floyd!!

[Roger Mellie]

As with most things in NSB and the press in general,things get blown way out of proportion. ****m is undoubdtedly a great trainer,but lets face it,he had a lot already there in place with Shane who has always been a great fighter.

[TITO SEVERE]

I mean, hes a great trainer and surely an improvement in the corner from his daddy. But seeing again how Shane fought Margarito, i see nothing different from when he fought Vargas. I believe Shane just knows how to fight certain fighters, especially those who come forward plodding away, have a slow jab, flat footed and fight from the front foot.

He didnt execute that well against Cotto because he expected a brawling Cotto, and found a quick jabbing Cotto...that also maybe wasnt his best night.

Thoughts?

My nukka let me explain this you one time homie. Shane was a completely different fighter in the Margarito fight then he was in any other fight. He was using his jab effectively instead of just pushing it out there as a measuring tool. He was sticking it to Tony's chest and plex areaz. He was fighting in a rythmic pattern more like I have seen him in the past. his body work was incredible. He destroyed Tony to the body BIG TIME my nukka. Go ahead and watch that fight again if you think I am lying. If you cant see that then you are a blind bat son. to say that he was not improved and we are giving Brother ****m too much credit is completely false. Cotto was brawling in the early rounds go ahead an watch that fight again he started using his jab and boxing in the last 4-5 rounds and Shane adjusted and started pushing him back. Cotto was forced to box because Shane was going to BODY dude with the over hand right and lefts he was landing. Cotto was sticking the jab to catch Shane off balance and Cotto has a very good jab. What you have to understand is that Cotto had not fought like that before at until then we only seen a come forward Cotto with the left to the body and head. That was the first time we saw Cotto like that this is why it was not a surprise when Cotto started off the Tony fight boxing and moving away.

[ИATAS]

Naazim couldnt give Benard a plan to beat Calzaghe.believe me Andre Ward would have whooped Joe's ass any day.Naazim is good but when things are not going well the way they will against Mayweather I cant see him changing the gameplan.Margarito was made to order and yes we are giving Naaz too much credit

Freddie Roach was the main trainer against Calzaghe because Naz had a stroke.

And even then, the game plan to beat calzaghe was PERFECT. Calzaghe's biggest weapon was his output, so the game plan was to slow him down by clinching and fighting an ugly fight. That's clearly what Bernard did. The problem, wasn't because of a bad strategy, the problem was Bernard slowed down during the second half of the fight and stopped throwing punches. Freddie roach between rounds, "bernard, you got to throw more punches son!"

Meaning, the gameplan was perfect, the execution by the executioner was just a bit short and the 43 year old was running on empty in the final few rounds.

That's how I see the floyd vs shane fight going. The gameplan will probably be good, it's just a matter of shane's abilities to execute or not.

[FRANKGWJ]

Naazim is not underrated,more like under appreciated!!The B-hop-Calazghe fight is not a good example of Naazim looking bad,the fight was close,but there,B-hop's style has always been to slow the fight down!!Calzaghe by nature is a pure volume puncher!!He simply continued his volume to a close win!!

Against Margarito,that was a perfect stategy for fighting him!!Shane traded then held & pivoted & slugged some more,don't act like anyone expected Mosley to dominate,don't do that!!Regardless of how anyone feels,the fact is Floyd was offered a fight against Margarito, who called him out to his face man!!So there is not a fact that Floyd could really beat Margarito!!I know Floyd has stayed away from welterweights 2 biggest pure pressure fighters for a reason!!Mosley has the size & stamina to apply serious pressure on Floyd,that's why Floyd was hesitant!!Naazim is not overrated & not even a Floyd fan has the right to discredit him just because you support Floyd!!

Once again, Richardson did not train Hopkins for the Calzaghe fight. That was all Freddie Roach.

[BritishBoxing92]

I mean, hes a great trainer and surely an improvement in the corner from his daddy. But seeing again how Shane fought Margarito, i see nothing different from when he fought Vargas. I believe Shane just knows how to fight certain fighters, especially those who come forward plodding away, have a slow jab, flat footed and fight from the front foot.

He didnt execute that well against Cotto because he expected a brawling Cotto, and found a quick jabbing Cotto...that also maybe wasnt his best night.

Thoughts?

****m richardson,Freddie Roach,whoever trains Mayweather jr are all the best in the Boxing Buisness IMO

[stilltharow]

alot of people didnt even give mosley a chance to even win the fight!!! i was lost for words when i saw that fight live e****ally when i saw him knock margarito out i was like WOWWWWW!!