Neutral boxing fans: Do you think Pac is on PED's?

[M.I.C.]

manny is on nothing illegal.

Except EPO, HGH, and Children's Tylenol

[The Surgeon]

Message only to neutral fans, (not pac or may nuthuggers)

Do you think pac has been taking/or is taking PED's?

Do you think the reason he is refusing the 14 days before the fight cut off because he infact take PED's.

If so , do you think this explains his crazy KO power.

Do you think he will KO Clottey?
As there will be no ped tests, do you think he will use PED's?

No biased views please

Ive always thought Pac is just a great boxer with crazy skills, but recently after their rengotiations, im doubting his honesty.
Im finding it harder to believe Pac camp, too much doesnt add up

I like Manny, never loved the guy but i like em. I was a late arrival on the bandwagon tho.

My stance is id hate him to be on Roids its bad for the game. But i honestly think he might be and probably ever since the David Diaz fight IMO. Wish he'd just take the tests, pass and still look as explosive

On the plus side and this has no bairing on me thinking he has done Roids, My Boy Cotto's Only two loses will have come against a Drugs cheat and a loaded gloves cheat

[illmatickid]

honestly no, but i have trouble accepting the fact that a any modern day athlete especially of his magnitude would say no to a drug test...

[Jim Jeffries]

The terms or "a" term?

Well Floyd wanted the fight at 147, which favors him. He wanted a miniscule weight penalty, which favors him.

If I was Pac, I'd agree to the random blood testing, but make the fight at 140, in a 16 ft ring, with 8 oz gloves, with a 5 mill penalty for every pound over. Because there aren't really any other credible options for Floyd, that he would actually step in the ring with (leaving out guys like Paul Williams.)

[Black Dynamite]

Do you think pac has been taking/or is taking PED's?
TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST I LIKE PACQUIAO A LOT AND HAVE FOLLOWED HIS CAREER FOR A LONG TIME WAY BEFORE HE WAS FAMOUS AND UP UNTIL HE REFUSED TO SUBMIT TO PBF DEMAND I'M MORE APT TO SAY YES HE IS. BUT BEFORE THIS ALL HAPPENED NO.


Do you think the reason he is refusing the 14 days before the fight cut off because he infact take PED's.
YES, I DO BECAUSE THERE ARE $40M REASONS TO TAKE THE TEST. ITS NOT ABOUT PRIDE, ITS ABOUT THE FANS.

If so , do you think this explains his crazy KO power.
NO, ITS THE PUNCHES FIGHTERS DON'T SEE THAT'S PUTTING THEM TO SLEEP.

Do you think he will KO Clottey?
HECK NO! IN FACT I'M BETTING THAT CLOTTEY WILL STOP PACQUIAO IN THE 11TH RD. WILL I PAY TO SEE IT? NOPE, NOT A CHANCE. PAC NOT CLOTTEY IS PPV MATERIAL. ARUM HAVING MARGACHEATO ON THE UNDERCARD IS A STRAIGHT SLAP IN THE FACE TO COTTO. HE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOW TO FIGHT EVER AGAIN.

As there will be no ped tests, do you think he will use PED's?
HIGHLY DOUBT IT. I THINK ARUM AND TEAM PACQUIAO KILLED THE FIGHT ON PURPOSE SO THAT PACQUIAO CAN CYCLE OFF OF WHATEVER HE'S ON. WHICH IS WHY ARUM SAYS THEY'LL REVISIT THE FIGHT IN THE FALL. GBP HAS SAID THE DEMANDS WON'T CHANGE, SO WHY REVISIT THE FIGHT IF NOTHING WILL CHANGE...UNLESS THEY MEAN PACQUIAO'S BLOOD TEST RESULTS.

[Modobo3]

Well Floyd wanted the fight at 147, which favors him. He wanted a miniscule weight penalty, which favors him.

If I was Pac, I'd agree to the random blood testing, but make the fight at 140, in a 16 ft ring, with 8 oz gloves, with a 5 mill penalty for every pound over. Because there aren't really any other credible options for Floyd, that he would actually step in the ring with (leaving out guys like Paul Williams.)

Floyd DIDN'T want the fight at 147...he wanted it at 154 and he didn't accept a miniscule weight penalty, he accepted the EXCESSIVE weight penalty of $10,000,000.00.

PBF received ZERO concessions...Let me repeat...ZIP, ZERO, NADA, not a single concession.PERIOD

Pac should have accepted the 14 day option be cause he now looks very very suspect, esspecially to fringe and non-boxing fans.

[Bogig]

Manny is not necessarily hiding anything. If suddenly the NSAC decides that Olympic-style random blood testing is a requirement, I have no doubt that Manny would comply with the rules. But I don't think he necessarily has to comply with testing rules put up by the Mayweather commission because there is no such commission! (Even though he already compromised by
agreeing to random blood testing up to 24 days before the fight and immediately after the fight, plus unlimited urine testing).

We, as boxing fans, cannot hold Manny accountable to rules that have not been set by the governing body AND have never been required of any other boxer in the entire history of the sport, and label him as a cheat based solely on his refusal, with no other proof to show for it.

[Bogig]

Pac doesn't have to prove anything because no one can come up with a shred of proof that he's dirty, in all 10+ years that he's been fighting under the watchful eye of one of the most respected athletic commissions in the world.

All Pac has done is not cave in totally to Floyd's unheard of demands, which doesn't prove he's guilty.

Why should we hold Pac accountable to testing methodologies that no other man in the history of his sport has ever had to undergo???

Where is the fairness there?

[badnewsbrown]

i dont think he's on roids. i didnt think hes on anything initially but watching his fights again it reminds me of other athletes performances that have used blood doping drugs like epo. just that intensity etc...

[baCCaT]

to those who said yes.

ask yourself (lie if you want, you'll only be lying to yourself) when did you notice pac must be on something?