GBP in bed with USADA

[-The Glove-]

"When the athlete has no advance notice of the test, he or she will be chaperoned continuously from the moment of contact from the testing officials until the sample is provided. The test is usually a urine sample, as this is the easiest and least intrusive means of obtaining bodily fluids for testing. WADA has detailed protocols about the manner in which the sample is physically placed into a test container, the sealing of the container, and its secure transport to an accredited test facility. The test must usually provide for a designated A and B sample, with the B acting as the basis for a second test if the A sample tests positive. The athlete is deemed to have tested positive when both the A and the B samples generate that result."




The USADA is supposed to be an independent agency, yet GBP was allowed to dictate how they were to administer their tests? They don't even take blood from the Olympic athletes until after their competition is done. Up until that point, they mainly perform random urinanalysis. Sounds a little fishy to me.

"Schaefer didn't precisely spell out how the drug testing would be done. He and USADA Chief Executive Travis Tygart have said they don't believe an effective anti-doping policy can be carried out if Pacquiao won't agree to test any time in the 30-day period before the fight."


What interest does Tygart have in this fight? Why is he out there like one of the promoters implying Pacquiao won't take any kind of test, even urine, in the 30 day window? Pacquiao has stated numerous times that they can test his urine any time. And according to USADA policy on testing Olympic athletes-urine is used leading up to competition as it is "the easiest and least-intrusive means of testing of bodily fluids."

So why Mr. Tygart, are you saying that urine testing leading up to the fight is insufficient? Pacquiao is already bending over backwards by agreeing to a blood test, at all, before the fight. So it makes me wonder how it's ok to use urine for random testing on Olympic athletes but not for this fight. What ties do GBP and TYGART really have? Why was Tygart even this invested in this fight? All these things should be a red flag to what's really going on here.

So bottom line, IF BLOOD AFTER COMPETITION is good enough for the Olympics, why is it being changed for this fight?

[NYU Alum.]

I've been screaming about this the whole time. People on here need to be more objective, rather than take sides.

You always have to question your opponents motives, you've got to dig a lil deeper than what they're presenting at face value !!

It's kind of like, when you're dealing with a salesman, you never say yes at their first offer, duh !!

[imscythe]

2npac

I've read your reply to my post in another thread, and that's why the test seems questionable. It seems they're in it not for testing Manny but destroy his focus.

[madsweeney]

The 2009 Tour De France was the most tested event in the history of sports. Even they used a scheduled blood test 2 days before the race started. What PBF was asking for exceeds not only any previous boxing records but even the Olympics and the largest Cycling competitions.

The Olympic style of 3-5 random blood tests is based on a annual testing period, not 2 1/2 months.

[-The Glove-]

Yes, that, and also maybe to lay blame on Pacquiao for the fight not happening. So Mayweather can't be accused of ducking. But educated fans can see the smoke and mirrors.

[whirlwind]

The 2009 Tour De France was the most tested event in the history of sports. Even they used a scheduled blood test 2 days before the race started. What PBF was asking for exceeds not only any previous boxing records but even the Olympics and the largest Cycling competitions.

The Olympic style of 3-5 random blood tests is based on a annual testing period, not 2 1/2 months.

*****s don't believe on this. They want 5 or more blood tests in 2 months period to disrupts Pac training and focus.

[Left Hook Tua]

*****s don't believe on this. They want 5 or more blood tests in 2 months period to disrupts Pac training and focus.

say they do 5 blood tests and 12 urine tests during training camp.

his camp is 8 weeks. that's 2 tests a week.

plus they can come 2-3am in the morning too? that was another thing roach had a problem with.

[LeeVanCleef]

Thanks for that intelligent post.

That should be ignored by non-Pacman fans

GoldenGirl and the Mayweathers: Giving witch doctors and inquistionists some much needed backrub.

[HighUnderground]

The thing that negates the OP's entire conspiracy theory is that GBP has agreed to work with somebody outside of the USADA if that is what Arum and Manny want. They just want to ensure that the testing is completely random and, frankly, that makes perfect sense. Random means random, and not when the athlete says he'll do it.

Another thing that the OP fails to point out when reading what exactly the USADA does is that they are an organization that offers "contract testing" in the United States. Which means they can be hired to collect samples and handle the testing, as long as they follow the International Standards for Doping Control, also known as the World Anti Doping Code. So it's not like it's some big conspiracy that GBP and Mayweather picked them. They follow a code and standard for testing that is recognized around the world.

What type of sample is taken, be it blood, urine, or both, and the structure of when it is appropriate to conduct the in competition and out of competition testing is something that is worked out between the organizations conducting the event, in this case that is Floyd and Manny, and the agency handling the testing, which would be the USADA. The World Anti Doping Code is very specific on the fact that both blood and urine samples are to be provided when asked for, and also that the standards that are applied to each sporting event are thoroughly analyzed while creating the unique testing plan. It is also very specific that the tests be conducted in a completely random manner, and with the athlete only getting a one hour window for meeting with the agent that will conduct the test when contacted for random testing.

I had links, but it wouldn't let me post them because I am new, but anybody can go to the USADA's website and see that under the "What We Do" section there is a section on contract testing. You can also do a simple google search for "International Standards for Testing 2009" and the very first link is a PDF of the policy on testing.

Just because some people don't like the source of an idea, in this case Team Mayweather, it does not take away from the validity of the argument. The entire sports world is in need of stricter testing policies and Boxing could do a great service to itself by stepping up it's standards across the board.

[menoari]

Underground, part of what you state -

"What type of sample is taken, be it blood, urine, or both, and the structure of when it is appropriate to conduct the in competition and out of competition testing is something that is worked out between the organizations conducting the event, in this case that is Floyd and Manny, and the agency handling the testing, which would be the USADA. The World Anti Doping Code is very specific on the fact that both blood and urine samples are to be provided when asked for, and also that the standards that are applied to each sporting event are thoroughly analyzed while creating the unique testing plan. It is also very specific that the tests be conducted in a completely random manner, and with the athlete only getting a one hour window for meeting with the agent that will conduct the test when contacted for random testing."

I understand the italicized as meaning USADA can modify their testing procedures to incorporate the agreements of their clients like Pac and Floyd here. I have been under the impression from the statements and articles on this board that USADA follows a protocol that neither Floyd or Pac could modify, thereby preventing the possibility of any cut off date as this was against protocol. (Yeah, trying to discern truth from message boards is dangerous business but I learned my lesson again, lol).

Damn, I've been taken for a ride!