Should Johnny Ruiz go down in the hall of fame instead of Holyfield, Lewis and Tyson?

[Atwa_66]

Although Ruiz has some impressive wins on paper,(Golota,Holyfield,Rahman) was he a popular fighter with the people? Granted he was the first Latin-American heavyweight champion, but was he popular with boxing fans and sports fans in general? If you walked down the street and asked regular people to name some heavyweight champs of the last decade or two, you would probaly hear the names of Tyson,Lewis,Holyfield,Foreman but not John Ruiz. The reason behind this is his lack of charisma and his boring 'clinch and fight' fighting style.

IMO he will be inducted to the boxer's hall of fame for being the first Latin Heavyweight champion and not anything else. Holyfield,Lewis, and Tyson were all charismatic(ok maybe not Lennox)and gave us boxing fans some of the most memorable fights of the 80s,90s, and the present.

Yeah what an impressive win over Golota, I loved how he should've lost, but then DK fixed it so he ended up not losing his belt. That IS impressive, he won the fight without even actually winning in the ring, brilliant. I think Ruiz should be in the Hall of Fame, and there should be a video screen right next to his picture, showing the 19 second KO he recieved against Tua.

[SacTown1]

Yeah what an impressive win over Golota, I loved how he should've lost, but then DK fixed it so he ended up not losing his belt. That IS impressive, he won the fight without even actually winning in the ring, brilliant. I think Ruiz should be in the Hall of Fame, and there should be a video screen right next to his picture, showing the 19 second KO he recieved against Tua.

Yeah, great call on the video replay, they should also mix-in some of those classic highlights of Johnny groping Evander, hugging Rahman, and making love to Norman Stone, wow what a highlight reel it would be! What the heck show some clips of Superman Jones kicking has a$$ also

[legend]

LOL, Ruiz might end up in the hall of fame, but not as having more credibility than the guys you named. Tyson? Lewis? Holyfield? WTF?!!

[theironone]

Don't forget when he went over from a legit bodyshot from holy then minced around on the canvas acting like a right moaning ****a - COME ON JAMES PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BEAT RUIZ

[legend]

Don't forget when he went over from a legit bodyshot from holy then minced around on the canvas acting like a right moaning ****a - COME ON JAMES PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BEAT RUIZ

Yeah, Ruiz seriously needs to lose his title. The funny thing is that it seems like Don King is protecting Ruiz because he makes King money. Doesn't he realize how much more money he could make if somebody more exciting and charismatic held the title. I don't understand Don King sometimes..actually all the time.

[SacTown1]

Yeah, Ruiz seriously needs to lose his title. The funny thing is that it seems like Don King is protecting Ruiz because he makes King money. Doesn't he realize how much more money he could make if somebody more exciting and charismatic held the title. I don't understand Don King sometimes..actually all the time.

I see your point, but remember that Ruiz and Croney Stone rarely ever argue with King about purses, venues, dates, opponents, etc. Ruiz fights wherever and whenever King tells him to, at whatever price Don offers, Ruiz is Don's ideal client, a heavyweight title-holder with just enough ability to hold onto the title without bitching and moaning about $$$ and other factors....it's a match made in greco-roman heaven

[Warden11]

I thought Golota beat him and so did many others it was not a clear cut victory. He beat a washed up Holyfield which everyone is beating now so who cares and Rahman isnt that good either. So, NO he does NOT deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

[legend]

I see your point, but remember that Ruiz and Croney Stone rarely ever argue with King about purses, venues, dates, opponents, etc. Ruiz fights wherever and whenever King tells him to, at whatever price Don offers, Ruiz is Don's ideal client, a heavyweight title-holder with just enough ability to hold onto the title without bitching and moaning about $$$ and other factors....it's a match made in greco-roman heaven

Yeah, the way Don King is, all he wants is to keep a champion in his corner that doesn't complain. Hopefully, Ruiz will still lose, even though I'm not sure who will win. Ruiz always seems to find a way to win.

[AintGottaClue]

the win of golota shouldnt count because if u look at the offical scorecards it mean golota only won 2 rounds vs ruiz and thats the 2 knockdown round and the penilty round. did anyone on planet earth have golota winning only those rounds?

[Warden11]

the win of golota shouldnt count because if u look at the offical scorecards it mean golota only won 2 rounds vs ruiz and thats the 2 knockdown round and the penilty round. did anyone on planet earth have golota winning only those rounds?

Exactly....