As long as both fighter take the same type tests, administered the same way at the same time, what is the problem it causes no disadvantage to one over the other. I don't see why Pacquiao should have a problem its a pint for a pint.
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Originally posted by twinchrome44s View PostAs long as both fighter take the same type tests, administered the same way at the same time, what is the problem it causes no disadvantage to one over the other. I don't see why Pacquiao should have a problem its a pint for a pint.
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What Arum said is as clear as it could possibly be said !!
There is no way Manny has EVER tried to back out of taking tests for PED's !!
The only reason to press Manny and subject him to random blood tests up to the day of the fight in which more blood that a few tablespoons will be taken is a VILE move to get under his skin....
Did he do it ??? Hear what Manny said :
Pacquiao chides Mayweather: Excuses, excuses
abs-cbnNEWS.com | 12/24/2009 4:58 PM
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MANILA, Philippines Seven-time world champion Manny Pacquiao has merely laughed off the drug testing issue being raised by Floyd Mayweather Jr.s saying that the former pound-for-pound king is just trying to excuse himself from the fight.
Marami lang siyang dahilan, marami siyang dinedemand. Siguro wala pa yong fight, takot na, said Pacquiao.
The Filipino champion, who recently won the World Boxing Organization welterweight title from Puerto Ricos Miguel Cotto, said Mayweather maybe getting nervous with the idea of trading punches with him.
Thus, American boxer came out with a statement demanding an Olympic-type of dope testing.
Sa akin walang problema kung gusto niyang lumaban. Fight kaming dalawa... pero kung medyo natakot siya -- palakasin muna niya loob niya, said Pacquiao.
Pacquiao made it clear he has no qualm in undergoing tests. What hes opposed against is having him to give blood so near the March 13 fight date.
Require natin lahat pati blood test... pero wag naman doon sa day of the fight, manghihina ka naman noon, he said.
The Filipino boxing star added that the Mayweather camp may also be using the issue to just to distract him.
Gu****wa lang siya ng paraan, strategy niya para ****lit ako... para ma-distract ako sa concentration sa fight, said the reigning pound-for-pound king.
Pit General sez,
I thought Mayweathers said this would be EASY,, say it slow and quietly,,, What happened to THAT !! Who but the Mayweathers would come up with some Hog **** like this ???
The Game dog won't be "RULED" by a Mayweather much less the Mayweather team !!
I am discussed with Oscar De La Hoya !! I loved his fights , I loved his freshness he brought to the sport,, his charisma but the way he picks someone to win over the other is "FAKE",,,, and he bears a GRUDGE against the man who at least "ONCE" held him in high regard and that was Pac. He is speaking vilely about Pac now.
GBP's has been Fair ?????????? BALONEY !!!!!
Curweathers are on the hunt to either demoralize Pac to be able to beat him cause "they" know its a coming war or they have found their WAY , not a viable way ,, but their way OUT of the Fight !!!!
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Why the fuss with this "bloodtesting" stuff? Does this goes to show that Pacquiao has a good chance or even high percentage of beating him? Isn't it that his bigger or a better boxer than him? Does this show that he's scared, afraid or is there any term for this? Does Manny's accomplishments really bothers him or in a sense acknowledges it? Just pondering... I didn't say that neither of the two are clean but it shows that FM is showing he's really bothered of Pacquiao's status.. I would like to think that it's just another mindgame of his' but a lot different since his style is to downgrade his opponents and boast abouts his boxing superiority.. Just my plain dumb basic understanding about boxing..
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Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Postman, if Floyd demands 50 times blood tests or 100 times, you mean Pac just agree because both of them tested the same thing? Basically what you mean is, if Floyd Sr. is crazy Pac should follow too because it just okey for Floyd to become crazy? a test either before and after the fight is more than enough but since one disagree on before the fight then after the fight is okey as long as the quality of the test are the same to determine fighters if they are with the illegal substance in the last 24hrs.
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Originally posted by warp1432 View PostI still have to wonder why Pacquiao's camp is so sensative of not having blood drawn a month before the fight. I could see the week, but maybe they should negotiate 2 weeks into the fight.
Though hopefully it gets done regardless
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Originally posted by Gutz View PostDate oct 2003..
now its Dec 2009.. I bet you the testing is more advance now dumb ass..
Cat & Mouse...Even when they say the Urine is enough why not subject to the blood tests with certain rules, but random, because putting the fixed dates gives the wrong impression.
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Originally posted by Rhonald View Postanabolicseshop. com/steroid_information.htm#sdett
Steroid Detection time:
Clenbuterol 4 days
Testosterone undecanoate 1 week
Testosterone propionate 2 weeks
oral Stanozolol 3 weeks
Oxandrolone Ethylestrenole 5 weeks
Mesterolone, Methandienone, Noretadrolone, Drostanolone propionate 2 months
Fluoxymesterone, Formebolone, injectable Stanozolol, Oxymetholone, Testosterone cypionate 3 months
Testosterone enanthate, Testosterone-mix (Sustanon & Omnadren), Boldenone undecyclate 5 months
injectable methandienone, Metehenolone enanthate, Trenbolone, Trenbolone acetate, Nandrolone phenylpropionate 12 months
Nandrolone decanoate 18 months
Better idea, Floyd should use steroids, just in case Pacīs taking them, and do urine tests, passes them like SSM, and beat the crap out of PAC with or without steroids...end of pre-promotion of this fight!
GET THE FIGHT DONE!
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Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View PostLAS VEGAS, NEV. To bleed, or not to bleed -- is that really the question? [Click Here To Read More]
So Pac has refused random drug test. The issue isn't even that he doesn't want to take a test 24 hours before the fight it's that he doesn't want them to be random. Seems a little strange to me, as I've said before I never thought Pac was cheating or believed the **** that comes out of Sr. mouth, but Pac's team's actions alone have put doubts in my head.
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It sounds u know more & better than the NSAC...Put up u'r own agency & campaign now..
Originally posted by jtiger78 View Posti give up....
Furthermore, the current methods related to detecting Hgh in blood samples are only useful for about 48 hours after injection; after which the tests reliability drops dramatically.
Therefore from a medical or scientific perspective, Floyd Mayweather is supported in his conclusion that to adequately test for banned substances, blood must be drawn randomly.
Scheduled sampling and cut-off dates serve only to provide necessary information for unfair manipulation of the system.
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