If the fight still went on without PAC agreeing to this "Blood" thing..

[ianntheman]

If Manny opts not to agree or comply,It's his prerogative.
No rules are broken.! and having a test after fight ends is already a proof!
haters will find a way just like Gayweather is looking for a way out.

[jrosales13]

Sooooo....

What would be the difference between a Pac win and a win by anybody else who has ever tested NEGATIVE in the past or anybody else who ever will test NEGATIVE in the future?

Will their wins be tainted too if they don't submit to olympic style tests?

Pavlik's win over Espino? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests
Williams' win over Martinez? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests
_______'s win over _______? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests

Exactly, if people are saying they will question the win. Then they should question ever single fighter in the modern era who has ever won a fight.

[Maidana vs Rios]

Exactly, if people are saying they will question the win. Then they should question ever single fighter in the modern era who has ever won a fight.

All of Mayweather's wins = Tainted, no olympic style blood tests :nod:

:laugh:

[jrosales13]

All of Mayweather's wins = Tainted, no olympic style blood tests :nod:

:laugh:

Tainted is a shame no credit. Pac is tainted, Floyd is tainted, the whole sport of boxing is tainted.

[crillz]

Crillz bro he said he is willing to do one after the fight and before the fight. He agree to that as soon as the Mayweather camp came with that. I don't understand why everybody is acting like Manny is not willing to do a blood test. When in fact he is willing to do 2 blood test when really his requirement is zero. There is no "IF" he is willing to do 2 blood test.

Until he busted he is clean to me and I don't and won't question any win.

you're trying to give him credit, I understand what you're saying and where you're going but Manny ain't like a Cotto who doesn't make crazy demands himself, he does that **** too and all too often recently so this is fair game. he's asking for 2 tests at a set time apart in which he can probably maneuver some **** to bypass the **** popping up in his system, days he can be prepared for but in the way Mayweather wants there is no way to prepare, ANYTIME at anyplace BOTH guys can be tested and can't hide nothing, what's the problem?

[jrosales13]

you're trying to give him credit, I understand what you're saying and where you're going but Manny ain't like a Cotto who doesn't make crazy demands himself, he does that **** too and all too often recently so this is fair game. he's asking for 2 tests at a set time apart in which he can probably maneuver some **** to bypass the **** popping up in his system, days he can be prepared for but in the way Mayweather wants there is no way to prepare, ANYTIME at anyplace BOTH guys can be tested and can't hide nothing, what's the problem?

Have we ever seen blood test before in boxing? We honestly do not know what negative effects it will have on either fighter taking it so close to the fight. Boxing is a whole different animal than racing and swimming. The physical and mental aspect of boxing is beyond any other sport. Especially the mental part. And, I might be wrong about this. But, does not want it 2 or 3 weeks before. So anytime anyplace before 3 weeks is ok. And, they are willing to do one after the fight. I don't know how long HGH or roids stay in your system. But, if he uses HGH or roids during that 3 week time span. Is it possible that it will show up when they take the blood test after the fight?

[Pac-Fan]

no. you can't suspect pacquiao of cheating just because he denies taking a blood test. it's the same way that you can't doubt a defendant in court because they plead the 5th.

[crillz]

Have we ever seen blood test before in boxing? We honestly do not know what negative effects it will have on either fighter taking it so close to the fight. Boxing is a whole different animal than racing and swimming. The physical and mental aspect of boxing is beyond any other sport. Especially the mental part. And, I might be wrong about this. But, does not want it 2 or 3 weeks before. So anytime anyplace before 3 weeks is ok. And, they are willing to do one after the fight. I don't know how long HGH or roids stay in your system. But, if he uses HGH or roids during that 3 week time span. Is it possible that it will show up when they take the blood test after the fight?

that's the whole loophole here, if he just took it how Floyd asked for it there will be no questions but you saw the question you asked, will it show up after the fight? no one can know for SURE but at least nothing can be said about Pacquiao being that he didn't hide, whatever test they wanted they got

[Gary Coleman]

Yes. How could you not?

I still think his win over Cotto is questionable.

[Gary Coleman]

I really think that people are forgetting how legitimate the NSAC is. People are also forgetting (or just not reading?) the fact that Pacquiao's camp says that he will give blood immediately after the fight.

Dude, there's a reason blood is taken before the fight.

Dopers are always ahead of the game as far as testing goes. It is the testing that has to play catch up.