The entire mood of this section will be upside down when Mayweather prevails

[peyk-peyk]

nope.

pacquiao was a HOFer since 130.

the talk of being atg is from what he did afterwards.

he won 130 , 135 , 140 and 147 titles from march 2008 to november 2009.

4 titles in 4 different weight classes , 2 of them lineal , in a place of 20 months.

delahoya doesn't even matter.

delahoya only matters to casual fans.

...like Kevin Jesus and Easy Work...

[mclovin]

Man history will look back and remember that Mayweather beat the #1 fighter in the world......all the hating/ducker talk will cease.

shane, margacheato, cotto???

who was ducking again?

oh i forgot. he stuffef jmm with padding and carne asadas

[Left Hook Tua]

You're saying he was considered a HOF'er before DLH and an ATG post DLH? If that is what you're saying then I agree. But I disagree if you're saying he was considered an ATG coming off his win against Dangerous David Diaz at LW.

The DLH fight made his fans praise him as an All Time Great. That's why I say it is all hype.

whatever bro.

think what you want.

delahoya made him mainstream.

delahoya didn't make him an atg.



you guys always talk about pacfans being new to boxing or something.

you guys do know that pac was a star in philippines since ledwaba right?

he became famous and beloved in philippines since barrera.

most pac fans have been around for a while. only mainstream , casual fans came around after delahoya. just like most of floyd's mainstream , casual fans came around after delahoya as well.

the pacfans especially on this site has been around for a while.

can't say the same for most of your floyd stan brothers. probably bandwagoners after dancing with the stars and wwe.

[renren40]

Yeah, a lot of them. I put Shane above Manny as the top WW myself, so it's nothing unusual to me if others do.

what? Shane couldn't put away Cotto ... Cotto won that mug
yo check it ... Manny ... right? Manny is p4p numero uno ....

Manny weighs in the 140's like all the time got me?
and he is number 1 fighter in the world ...

Mosley is yet to get that big fight...he walks at a heavier weight than the 140's im pretty damn sure...he lost to Cotto and Cotto was dominated by Pac ...

so how is Mosley above Manny in anything?

cuz he has a bigger frame or appears to throw more power?
man that chicken leg motor scooter .. don't let him fool you ...

just cuz he punches like he is pitching a fast ball and biting his lip at the same time does not mean he has booka power know-what-im-shayin?

[Kevin Jesus]

Ahhhh, man... don't "sorry but" me, please! That's my pet hate. Maddox sums it up on this page:



As I said, it's his entire body of work that got him to where he is now, not just beating Oscar.

What was his best and most dominant win against a Top P4P fighter, pre DLH?

Barrera? or washed up Morales?

He was a regular HOF'er, he's hailed now for beating 2 Mayweather leftovers and an overrated fighter.

[Left Hook Tua]

...like Kevin Jesus and Easy Work...

it makes me laugh.

they always talk about filipino fans as being bandwagoners and new to boxing.

LMAO

filipino fans followed pac since he was still at flyweight.

filipino american fans followed pac since ledwaba (8 years ago) or at least barrera (6 years ago)



what about all these floyd stans? where the hell were they before 2007?

[AllEyesOpen]

Except this time, Mayweather will be fighting the number 1 pound for pound fighter in the world.

To be the man...You gotta BEAT the man! WWhhhoooaaaaawah!

By your logic Mayweather is still p4p #1.

[Kevin Jesus]

Pacquiao was built up as an ATG by casual fan so I think casual fans matter in this discussion.

His fans are not exactly hardcore boxing fans i'll tell you that much.

[renren40]

I think they've both proven they belong there.

Manny fought and beat Oscar at ww. If he would've gone back down to 135
or 140 instead of facing Cotto, then we could say he still had something to prove at ww.

Apparently, Freddie thinks Manny belongs there too.

ok you win ... theyre in the mix ...
but they both did start out as lightweights working their way up there ...
these boys aint nothing to play with P-Will, Berto, Mosley

Hatton and De La Hoya fell short ...
im ready for 2010 ...

[mclovin]

What was his best and most dominant win against a Top P4P fighter, pre DLH?

Barrera? or washed up Morales?

He was a regular HOF'er, he's hailed now for beating 2 Mayweather leftovers and an overrated fighter.

and floyd had SD with hoya while pac flushed hoya. floyd had a a hard time disposing hatton and needed a ring post while pac killed him in 2 rounds

common, start working up those neurons