Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: Dallas KO'd; Vegas Leads To Host

[mrlopez]

Maybe if Cowboys and New Orleans stadiums had what Sin City provides, Schaefer may have made the trip.

Only thing I see going for Cowboys Stadium is a convertible roof top and giant screens.

If MGM gets their head together, they can come up with a way to build much bigger screens too.

Vegas aint building **** that comes close to 80k, let alone 100k seats. Thats why this **** sux bal.ls
Even if they had it at Thomas and Mack, it still wont come close to 50k.....
they expect to make a lot of money come fight night but dont seem to be thinking correctly..

[SOY-COMO-SOY]

They dont wanna have it in an outdoor stadium?

Cowboys stadium has a FULLY retractable roof... in other words... it CLOSES.

im glad someone said this.

[NYU Alum]

Reading the posts on here, it is incredibly disappointing how little fans know about the sport.

1) Vegas is going through a down period. New hotels have recently opened in Vegas, and there is a glut of hotel rooms. Simple laws of supply and demand tell you that Vegas had greater motivation.

2) Vegas and New Orleans have gaming. Dallas does not. Other than the fight itself, how would Dallas get your money? What would 50,000 visitors do in Dallas from Wednesday to Sunday? No shows, few amenities for tourists, etc.

3) Vegas is one municipality (Clark County). "Dallas" is an accumulation of small cities. Dallas, Ft. Worth, Arlington, Hurst, Euless, Plano, McKinney, Grand Prairie, Allen, Lewisville, Flower mound, etc, etc, etc. The hotels are spread out all over the place, so the revenues that come in would be spread around. It's very hard to deal with those public planning situations.

4) Vegas and New Orleans? You walk around. Everything is close. Dallas? That is a driving city. Have you ever tried driving around during a Super Bowl week or something? It is miserable.

5) Vegas can afford to pay the highest site fees. Dial up the table minimums to make it back. What can Dallas do? Charge you 3x for a cheeseburger?

[SOY-COMO-SOY]

Vegas aint building **** that comes close to 80k, let alone 100k seats. Thats why this **** sux bal.ls
Even if they had it at Thomas and Mack, it still wont come close to 50k.....
they expect to make a lot of money come fight night but dont seem to be thinking correctly..

this pisses me off, i live 40 mins away from the dallas stadium and the fight is gonna be on my bday, so i was gonnna go see it. but now i cant. Ohh well

but i understand what your saying. They will still make their money. Since the place they will have it at, wont hold not even half of dallas stadium, all they will do is jack up the prices 3x what if would of been at dallas stadium.

Its a ****** move on their part, cuz wasnt las vegas gonna place a bid and dallas was gonna place a bid and whoevers bid was better, the fight was gonna be held there??? Well now vegas doesnt have to bid so high, cuz apparently they dont want the fight no where else

[SOY-COMO-SOY]

Reading the posts on here, it is incredibly disappointing how little fans know about the sport.

1) Vegas is going through a down period. New hotels have recently opened in Vegas, and there is a glut of hotel rooms. Simple laws of supply and demand tell you that Vegas had greater motivation.

2) Vegas and New Orleans have gaming. Dallas does not. Other than the fight itself, how would Dallas get your money? What would 50,000 visitors do in Dallas from Wednesday to Sunday? No shows, few amenities for tourists, etc.

3) Vegas is one municipality (Clark County). "Dallas" is an accumulation of small cities. Dallas, Ft. Worth, Arlington, Hurst, Euless, Plano, McKinney, Grand Prairie, Allen, Lewisville, Flower mound, etc, etc, etc. The hotels are spread out all over the place, so the revenues that come in would be spread around. It's very hard to deal with those public planning situations.

4) Vegas and New Orleans? You walk around. Everything is close. Dallas? That is a driving city. Have you ever tried driving around during a Super Bowl week or something? It is miserable.

5) Vegas can afford to pay the highest site fees. Dial up the table minimums to make it back. What can Dallas do? Charge you 3x for a cheeseburger?

all good points, except the fact that they will have the NBA all star game in dallas and this NFL superbowl in dallas.

[jt$]

Reading the posts on here, it is incredibly disappointing how little fans know about the sport.

1) Vegas is going through a down period. New hotels have recently opened in Vegas, and there is a glut of hotel rooms. Simple laws of supply and demand tell you that Vegas had greater motivation.

I understand your point that Vegas will take boxing away from real fans in order to support its ******** operation. I smell something fishy about this though. They Schaefer side is clearly pulling an excuse out of its ass (side bribe money from Vegas going to Golden Boy or something?).

Are you just pointing out fact or are you supporting that boxing is used to support ********?

2) Vegas and New Orleans have gaming. Dallas does not. Other than the fight itself, how would Dallas get your money? What would 50,000 visitors do in Dallas from Wednesday to Sunday? No shows, few amenities for tourists, etc.

The fight negotiation is with Jerry Jones not the city of Dallas. Jones will offer a sizable amount based on the potential profits he can get for selling tickets at his stadium. I'm a gigantic boxing fan and I hate ********. I was at the Martinez-Williams fight in AC last weekend and didn't gamble a cent. I had a great time. Casinos should have nothing to do with the sport of boxing.

3) Vegas is one municipality (Clark County). "Dallas" is an accumulation of small cities. Dallas, Ft. Worth, Arlington, Hurst, Euless, Plano, McKinney, Grand Prairie, Allen, Lewisville, Flower mound, etc, etc, etc. The hotels are spread out all over the place, so the revenues that come in would be spread around. It's very hard to deal with those public planning situations.

Spreading revenues around doesn't have anything to do with Jerry Jones making a deal for the fight at his stadium. However, there are lots of hotels in proximity to the stadium which was part of the deal to build the stadium.

4) Vegas and New Orleans? You walk around. Everything is close. Dallas? That is a driving city. Have you ever tried driving around during a Super Bowl week or something? It is miserable.

You are correct on the fact that driving is necessary in this area and the city of Dallas but if you're suggesting that a fight crowd would create crazy traffic I think that's nuts. They host 10 games a year with a crowd of 100,000 people, all driving. I understand you're saying this would be a large amount of people in the area but highways in texas are 6 lanes wide and they're clogged everyday, this fight isn't going to create any problems worth moving the fight for.

5) Vegas can afford to pay the highest site fees. Dial up the table minimums to make it back. What can Dallas do? Charge you 3x for a cheeseburger?

Dallas' site fee will be based on the tickets they can sell at the stadium. Vegas' site fee will be based on whatever they have to do to win the fight from Dallas.

I think Dallas can offer a competitive fee that would at least give them a shot, the added value they offer is that putting the fight here would make it legendary. Every superfight for the past 20 years has been in Vegas, it's always the same, snooze. Put it at the world's greatest stadium with maybe the biggest boxing crowd in history and you have the things legendary nights are made of. I think Vegas is going to have to use dirty tricks to keep this fight from where it should properly be.

Why anyone would argue that this fight should be in a 16,000 seat stadium in Las Vegas where they will sell 20-30,000 CLOSED CIRCUIT seats and deprive more boxing fans from seeing this fight live is incomprehensible to me.

[Check]

We all knew it was going to end up in Vegas, shouldn't be a surprise. Still a shame that the heads of boxing are still too ****** to adapt and try something new. Last larger than life fight for maybe another 3 decades and all they can worry about is padding their wallets.

[NYU Alum]

Dallas' site fee will be based on the tickets they can sell at the stadium. Vegas' site fee will be based on whatever they have to do to win the fight from Dallas.
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Doesn't the gate money principally go to the promoters? So, if a stadium owner needs to recoup a multi-million dollar site fee, please explain the mechanics of how that works.

For the purpose of discussion, please feel free to use a round number of USD 10 Mn.

Thank you.

[Charlie Kelly]

A shame tbh, at least ticket sales would have been reasonable in Cowboy Stadium and still would have generated the amount of money they wanted to make in ticket sales in my opinion. But what the hell I guess I already have a room booked at the MGM so might as well pay an arm and a leg for a ticket to get close as well. I hope they go for the 30,000 seat outdoor arena.

I guess I'll be canceling the other hotel rooms in Texas and Louisiana.

[-Antonio-]

I don't blame Floyd for much, but I'm assuming he is part to blame here.

This is disappointing to me. Vegas shouldn't get every big fight. It's like the Super Bowl only being in one place every year.