Muhammad Ali was a clown and a fool

[thebowtod]

wht the ****, and then you go and say floyds talk is worse?
dont go actin like you know about anything that im talkin about
your obviously the one lacking knowledge here

and anyone that thinks what ali did was funny and ok
either have'nt got the whole story
or are some very ******, ignorant and racist people

floyd's bad cause he doesn't back it up and he contradicts himself, a lot

[SplitSecond]

What has that got to do with Ali? Frazier got his money taken from him by managers and bad business deals.

What Ali did to Frazier was wrong but Ali did a lot of good in his life as well, especially for the Black community in the US.

fraziers kid would get picked on and beaten because ali said his father is an uncle tom

[Silencers]

fraziers kid would get picked on and beaten because ali said his father is an uncle tom

As I said, what Ali did was wrong to Frazier and he went too far but that shouldn't take away from the good things that Ali did as well.

[TheGreatA]

"Thrilla in Manila" was a joke of a documentary. Not that Ali was a saint, the documentary did expose that, but it was terribly biased and you should not make up your opinion on the Ali-Frazier rivarly based on it.

Frazier and Ali were never friends, it was actually Frazier who was agitating and calling out Ali (who at that time was out of the fight game due to the Vietnam war controversy) in a 1969 talk show, insulting him by calling him "Clay" and saying Ali was scared of him. Frazier mainly lended money to Ali, defended him and helped him out so he could get Ali in the ring and beat him up in order to call himself the real champ.

Since then Ali and Frazier have made up and became enemies again and again. In recent interviews Frazier has again said that he has forgiven Ali, hopefully this time for good.

[Bright-Eyes]

fraziers kid would get picked on and beaten because ali said his father is an uncle tom

Again,you know this only because they put out a documentary sympathetic to Frazier.They could have said that Ali was the cause of all wrongs in the world and people like you would have believed it.

[tommy boo boxer]

I think one main fact TS forgot to mention was the era America was in at the time when Ali was trashing Frazier, one could only imagine the heat.
after watching the Thrilla in Manilla doco... sheit i dont blame smokin Joe.

but theres 2 sides to a coin.. that was only 1 side.

[SplitSecond]

As I said, what Ali did was wrong to Frazier and he went too far but that shouldn't take away from the good things that Ali did as well.

most defienetly does'nt, any good a man does should be taken into consideration

[AllEyesOpen]

People have said and done some crazy **** to promote a fight, **** just look at Tyson, and I do agree that Ali might have crossed a line with Frazier. That having been said, most of the time Ali would insult his opponents in much lighter ways, calling them mummies and ****. I never heard him talk about ****ing female reports so they could be allowed to speak or eating people's children.

[Bright-Eyes]

"Thrilla in Manila" was a joke of a documentary. Not that Ali was a saint, the documentary did expose that, but it was terribly biased and you should not make up your opinion on the Ali-Frazier rivarly based on it.

Frazier and Ali were never friends, it was actually Frazier who was agitating and calling out Ali (who at that time was out of the fight game due to the Vietnam war controversy) in a 1969 talk show, insulting him by calling him "Clay" and saying Ali was scared of him. Frazier mainly lended money to Ali, defended him and helped him out so he could get Ali in the ring and beat him up in order to call himself the real champ.

Since then Ali and Frazier have made up and became enemies again and again. In recent interviews Frazier has again said that he has forgiven Ali, hopefully this time for good.

Agreed mate,you're very well read on old articles and you would know that Frazier and his team always used to refer to Ali as Clay and went out of their way to refer him as that way.Ali learned to tolerate floyd patterson because they became friends later on and Ali even joked that he didn't mind him calling it leading up to their rematch


People say that it's just Frazier side of the story but there absolutely nothing right in sensationalising a story.That documentary did nothing to present another side to the story,rather than cut down a guy just because you can.



Ali wasn't a saint,he was a human with flaws as we all have.You could point out how cruel Ali could be as one of his negative points,and then I could just show them a video like this as one of his positive sides.

[Oasis_Lad]

Ali was engaging, charming, articulate and Witty. Floyd's an illiterate, crass imbecile.

Not even comparable, their trash talk.... not one iota.