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    #21
    "he just hasnt had the opponent yet for us to really know how good he is"
    is not contradictory with "Ward is simply better than Kessler" because like Calzaghe (whom Kessler lost too) I consider Kessler to be overrated. So whupping Kessler ass proves what? that Ward is really good? or that Kessler was over rated? The only challenge Kessler presents is professional experience. The opponent I was referring to would be someone who has fought and beat other great fighters.. i.e. Chad Dawson or Paul Williams.. not Kessler who got beat by an old Calzaghe. These European and British fighters have these impressive records full of figthers who cant fight.. then they get KTFO when they fight someone who can fight.. i.e. Hatton vs. Mayweather and Hatton v Pacquaio and Carl Froch sorry ass. They are not proven against great fighters. Europe and Britain hype them up then they get KTFO. Look at Froch. He has zero chance of winning this tournament. He beat Jermain Taylor but was losing that fight until the 12th.. Dirrel.. lucky to get that decision and you still ride his ****. Get real. The greatest boxers in the history of the sport have been American. Period. So go somewhere with that bull****. Slow ass, robotic, British and European fighters.

    Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
    A bit like Kessler toyed with Andrade, who most rate considerably higher than Miranda.





    Two mutually contradictory statements there! I agree with the first one.

    Fancy a 20k bet on the fight? I agree with your first statement, which means an upset is possible, but IMO it would be a huge upset if Ward wins.
    Last edited by Carlisle; 11-11-2009, 03:50 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Carlisle View Post
      "he just hasnt had the opponent yet for us to really know how good he is"
      is not contradictory with "Ward is simply better than Kessler" because like Calzaghe (whom Kessler lost too) I consider Kessler to be overrated. So whupping Kessler ass proves what? that Ward is really good? or that Kessler was over rated? The only challenge Kessler presents is professional experience. The opponent I was referring to would be someone who has fought and beat other great fighters.. i.e. Chad Dawson or Paul Williams.. not Kessler who got beat by an old Calzaghe. These European and British fighters have these impressive records full of figthers who cant fight.. then they get KTFO when they fight someone who can fight.. i.e. Hatton vs. Mayweather and Hatton v Pacquaio and Carl Froch sorry ass. They are not proven against great fighters.
      Calzaghe's win over Kessler is overrated. Kessler couldn't spar and entered with a broken hand.

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        #23
        The funny thing is.. is that no one in the tournament can even get next to Chad Dawson.. why did your great Calzaghe not move up and fight a heavyweight like the GREAT Roy Jones did in his prime? Since you claim to be a boxing historian. When was the last time an European or British boxer moved up from middleweight to compete in the Heavyweight division? There are two American middleweights still fighting who fought for titles at Heavyweight Roy Jones and James Toney. Those are great fighters. Name one British or European fighter who moved from middleweight to fight for a Heavyweight title? You cant.. so go somewhere with that B.S. with your hyped up fighters.
        Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
        A bit like Kessler toyed with Andrade, who most rate considerably higher than Miranda.





        Two mutually contradictory statements there! I agree with the first one.

        Fancy a 20k bet on the fight? I agree with your first statement, which means an upset is possible, but IMO it would be a huge upset if Ward wins.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Carlisle View Post
          The funny thing is.. is that no one in the tournament can even get next to Chad Dawson.. why did your great Calzaghe not move up and fight a heavyweight like the GREAT Roy Jones did in his prime? Since you claim to be a boxing historian. When was the last time an European or British boxer moved up from middleweight to compete in the Heavyweight division? There are two American middleweights still fighting who fought for titles at Heavyweight Roy Jones and James Toney. Those are great fighters. Name one British or European fighter who moved from middleweight to fight for a Heavyweight title? You cant.. so go somewhere with that B.S. with your hyped up fighters.
          Bob Fitzsimmons from the UK was the first EVER to become world champion at Middleweight, Light heavyweight and Heavyweight. Now **** off mr.euro hater.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Iceta View Post
            I think this fight could possibly be the best fight for the rest of the year as long as Ward doesn't stink it up. Both guys have good power and are good boxers. Kessler will win I believe though.
            ward has power???since when?.........


            his lack of power is one of the reasons i dont think he will win......even though he is a bad style match up for kessler, who usually is a little reckless agianst fighters who try to box him.....

            kessler will win......i wasnt as confident before, but after rewatching some of his fights, when he is in trouble of giving ground, he starts throwing hard and straight and fast, and a lot.....i dont think ward has the power to keep him off of him.....

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              #26
              rofl at the fact that carlisle's ignorant ass isnt red...........

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                #27
                Originally posted by Carlisle View Post
                The opponent I was referring to would be someone who has fought and beat other great fighters.. i.e. Chad Dawson or Paul Williams.. not Kessler who got beat by an old Calzaghe. These European and British fighters have these impressive records full of figthers who cant fight.. then they get KTFO when they fight someone who can fight..
                Please name all the great fighters Dawson and pwill fought.

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                  #28
                  Carlisle......

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                    #29
                    Owned

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                      #30
                      Carlisle"peeleft:

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