News: Cintron Acusses Manny of Steroids!!

[raabd]

cintron = whiny *****

[Chups]

What a disturbing distraction by way of Puerto Rico.

[miron_lang]

they take a test every fight.

You're WRONG


BEFORE and AFTER EACH FIGHT

[miron_lang]

What a disturbing distraction by way of Puerto Rico.

QUINTANA should say something.

[Talon]

Talon, i see your point and i am actually open to the possibility that you may be more knowledgeable than on the topic..

..BUT the problem with this is that its your words against another's.
This is just the internet, we can go on until doomsday arguing, but in the end they are just words, not proof. in the end your opinion is yours, but it does not make you the authority on the matter, all we have are words, no evidence.

God knows there are millions of pretenders on the web ( i am not accusing you, but i can't take you're word for it)

in the end the most knowledgeable on the matter are those within Pac's inner circle.

good post. im tired of this subject. to those of you that have questions re-read my posts in this thread as entire posts. don't dissect 1 sentance. read the whole thing and work on your comprehension. its a combination of a lot of things that gives us the idea and it can't be easily explained.

by ages slowly what im saying is that manny has always looked young.. just like im sure alfredo angulo has looked like an old man for quite a while. i think of arreola as the type that ages fast because he probably looked like a grown man at age 17. manny has always looked very young. just like larry merchant said valuev aged faster than everyone else in the interview.

if i can't convince you, i can't. anyone saying its not possible or theres no reason for us to get ideas is absolutely wrong. im not trying to get people to join my side, im trying to get people to stop being so defensive and dont cry like the first time you realized santa claus isnt real. de la hoya is not nice just because he walks around smiling, he might act nice because it serves him in one way or another. things arent always what they seem. manny may not be a shiny and perfect nice human being. he likes HURTING people. life is not 2d there are layers and layers to people and the world. some people go their whole life thinking they will burn in hell if they have *** before marriage and some of you people defending manny sound just like that.. fundamentalist closed-minded children that are scared to grow up

jones is not the type you expect to cheat either, the all american olympian who started young and is just aging naturally. who just ate and lifted weights to get to heavyweight and beat ruiz. i really dont want to explain any more or argue. i dont know what got into me.

[Bretty Poy32]

good post. im tired of this subject. to those of you that have questions re-read my posts in this thread as entire posts. don't dissect 1 sentance. read the whole thing and work on your comprehension. its a combination of a lot of things that gives us the idea and it can't be easily explained.

by ages slowly what im saying is that manny has always looked young.. just like im sure alfredo angulo has looked like an old man for quite a while. i think of arreola as the type that ages fast because he probably looked like a grown man at age 17. manny has always looked very young. just like larry merchant said valuev aged faster than everyone else in the interview.

if i can't convince you, i can't. anyone saying its not possible or theres no reason for us to get ideas is absolutely wrong. im not trying to get people to join my side, im trying to get people to stop being so defensive and dont cry like the first time you realized santa claus isnt real. de la hoya is not nice just because he walks around smiling, he might act nice because it serves him in one way or another. things arent always what they seem. manny may not be a shiny and perfect nice human being. he likes HURTING people. life is not 2d there are layers and layers to people and the world. some people go their whole life thinking they will burn in hell if they have *** before marriage and some of you people defending manny sound just like that.. fundamentalist closed-minded children that are scared to grow up

jones is not the type you expect to cheat either, the all american olympian who started young and is just aging naturally. who just ate and lifted weights to get to heavyweight and beat ruiz. i really dont want to explain any more or argue. i dont know what got into me.

nietzsche didnt write all his books. he had a ghost writer.

[El Angel]

You can't compete with what he has accomplished Cintron, so you do this? Go fight Marg and get KO'd again.

[ny123]

pac status as a boxer ****s on cintrons but if the 2 ever fought kermit by brutal ko with possible brain damage for pac

[Jose Rizal]

CottovsPacquiao head wise:

Cotto's got a bigger noggin even with Pac with hair andwearing a hat ...lol.

[Blue Heffner]

anybody that knows anything about steroids knows a large percentage of pro fighters use.. incl. manny floyd cintron klitschkos. some people you'd never expect even. and not all steroids do the same things, some make you bigger, some burn fat and make you more ripped, some lubricate joints, some dry them out, some make tendons stronger while other weaken them. the ones people usually get caught for stay in the system for a long period of time, others stay in your system for a day and a half.. you could use some a week before the test and pass

i think thats what floyd layoff was partly about.. i think he used some form of anabolic/androgenic steroid and growth hormone as well. growth hormone cannot be tested for and test is natural so if the levels arent too high you pass. its possible for a fighter to be on heavy cycles of testosterone in between fights (hatton) and simply cruise on a natural dosage during testing and fights. manny and floyd have gone through the same physical changes very quickly, unlike other fighters we've seen. their heads are bigger, floyd is taller and thicker, manny has packed on pure muscle fibers without ever bulking up which is the way you'd have to do it naturally. his body was at his peak, he wasnt supposed to get bigger. also manny could barely grow a stache before, now he has a full goatee

lifting weights and eating will not make manny's face more muscular or allow him to grow more facial hair suddenly.. some of you just really dont want to beleive it. you dont even want to consider it, or your afraid manny will lose all credit. let your fear go and just admit its a possibility, then you will natural open up and move on and realize he is using something since about 2 years ago. and you will see that it doesnt mean i hate him, im so proud of manny and his achievements. i give him as much credit as anyone else knowing he has used. because he hasnt just used for a shortcut, he used to put himself in the history books as a beast that went up in weight and destroyed people he wasnt supposed to. if it's as easy as taking roids someone would have done it before. manny is a smart fighter with a huge heart and dedication which has allowed him to get in amazing condition. +roids... =beast. we still respect toney and jones and we will continue to respect manny.

cintron wasn't talking **** about manny, just giving his honest opinion. you dont hear him saying "he's a disgrace, he should be banned, his accomplishments mean nothing" .. he just said "yeah, i'd say he's using something because he never gained any fat while bulking etc." manny has the type of body not to be fat, but to get that much bigger and to start growing more facial hair and stuff he'd definately need some fat on his body just to get his natural levels up that high

Everything you said is on point. I think you have to be aware that these people reading know nothing about steroid and they're fighter fans not boxing fans...