Floyd, Bivol, Usyk and Beterbiev all say Crawford is #1 P4P

[famicommander]

Terence Crawford's resume (secondary and interim belts ignored, TBRB rankings used):
W vs #3 Ricky Burns UD 12 (fmr. WBO 130; reigning WBO 135; future WBA 140)
W vs #7 Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO 9 (fmr. WBA/IBF 126)
W vs #2 Raymundo Beltran UD 12 (future WBO 135)
W vs #9 Thomas Dulorme TKO 6
W vs #1 Viktor Postol UD 12 (reigning WBC 140)
W vs #3 John Molina TKO 8
W vs #9 Felix Diaz RTD 10 (Diaz ranked at 147, fight at 140)
W vs #1 Julius Indongo KO 3 (reigning WBA/IBF 140)
W vs #4 Jeff Horn TKO 9 (reigning WBO 147)
W vs Amir Khan TKO 6 (fmr. WBA/IBF 140)
W vs #10 Egidijus Kavaliauskas TKO 9
W vs Kell Brook TKO 4 (fmr. IBF 147)
W vs #4 Shawn Porter TKO 10 (fmr. IBF 147; WBC 147)
W vs #9 David Avanesyan KO 6
W vs #1 Errol Spence Jr. TKO 9 (reigning WBA/WBC/IBF 147)
W vs #3 Israil Madrimov UD 12 (reigning WBA 154)

Other notable victories: Breidis Prescott, Andrey Klimov, Dierry Jean, Hank Lundy, Jose Benavidez Jr

14-0 vs top 10
9-0 vs top 5
4-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Crawford was #1)
11-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
6-0 vs reigning world titlists
3-0 in unification fights
19-0 in world title fights
6-0 in lineal world championship fights
41-0-0-0 overall record, 31 KOs

135: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBO
140: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
147: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
154: WBA

3 division lineal world champion
2 division undisputed world champion
4 division world titlist

Notable achievements:
-One of only nine men to be lineal champion in three weight classes (Fitzsimmons, Ross, Armstrong, Canzoneri, Leonard, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)
-One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Inoue, Usyk)

That's why. It's either Usyk, Inoue, or Crawford and you can put them in any order you want. I favor Inoue due to his activity.

[dan_cov]

Usyk is clear #1 Bivol #2 and I'd probably have Inoue #3 before Crawford

His resume lacks and the guy fights once every blue moon. Vergil Ortiz has practically fought the same competition and beat them just as decisively minus an absolute shot, post car crash Spence who looked like he shouldn't have ever passed a medical.

[famicommander]

Usyk is clear #1 Bivol #2 and I'd probably have Inoue #3 before Crawford

His resume lacks and the guy fights once every blue moon. Vergil Ortiz has practically fought the same competition and beat them just as decisively minus an absolute shot, post car crash Spence who looked like he shouldn't have ever passed a medical.

It's flat out insane to have Bivol over Inoue. Inoue has 3X as many wins over world level opposition and has won belts in four divisions and undisputed championships in two.

[dan_cov]

It's flat out insane to have Bivol over Inoue. Inoue has 3X as many wins over world level opposition and has won belts in four divisions and undisputed championships in two.

His best win is a totally shot, ancient Nonito Donaire who was frankly horribly overrated even at his best. These divisions are dead, so dead you have countless domestic level opposition posing at world level and becoming belt holders and passing them about. Straps in the lower weights no longer mean anything, they'll be giving them as participation trophies next.
Beterbiev & Canelo, either >his entire resume. Zurdo is also a better win, by far. He has literally 3 wins that are way better than anything Inoue has, his best win (Inoues) is about on par with an old Pascal.

Upon further thinking I'd actually retract putting Inoue ahead of Crawford, his resume isn't there, even less so than Buds.
Like genuinely even past it Brook, Porter etc are flat out better than Doheny, Butler, Tapales, Dipaen and the rest like much better.

I know you'll post all these names with rankings and stuff but someone has to be rated in these ghost town divisions, the reality is Inoue has like 2-3 solid wins and a whole lot of fluff people want to just pretend are something to write home about. He has no real stand out win.
Fans can say Donaire but he was done years and years prior and even when fresher was comfortably getting handled by the likes of Frampton, Magdaleno, etc who received zero credit. Forward on maybe 5 years? Fans want to act like its a great win for Inoue.

[JOITATS]

His best win is a totally shot, ancient Nonito Donaire who was frankly horribly overrated even at his best. These divisions are dead, so dead you have countless domestic level opposition posing at world level and becoming belt holders and passing them about. Straps in the lower weights no longer mean anything, they'll be giving them as participation trophies next.
Beterbiev & Canelo, either >his entire resume. Zurdo is also a better win, by far. He has literally 3 wins that are way better than anything Inoue has, his best win (Inoues) is about on par with an old Pascal.

Upon further thinking I'd actually retract putting Inoue ahead of Crawford, his resume isn't there, even less so than Buds.
Like genuinely even past it Brook, Porter etc are flat out better than Doheny, Butler, Tapales, Dipaen and the rest like much better.

I know you'll post all these names with rankings and stuff but someone has to be rated in these ghost town divisions, the reality is Inoue has like 2-3 solid wins and a whole lot of fluff people want to just pretend are something to write home about. He has no real stand out win.
Fans can say Donaire but he was done years and years prior and even when fresher was comfortably getting handled by the likes of Frampton, Magdaleno, etc who received zero credit. Forward on maybe 5 years? Fans want to act like its a great win for Inoue.

No, you just dont know much of the lighter divisions.

Narvaez, Fulton, Nery, Donaire, Rodriguez, Tapales are his key wins
Donaire only lost when he fought 2 wgt classes heavier guys. He was dominant at 118. Monster was also fighting these guys while moving up, and demolished everyone.

If you want to talk about so called shot fighters, what about Spence?
Brook is the definition of a shot fighter.
Porter was on the brink of retirement. Please, when has TC ever fought a top guy in his prime? maybe Madrimov. But he barely squeaked by…

[JakeTheBoxer]

His best win is a totally shot, ancient Nonito Donaire who was frankly horribly overrated even at his best. These divisions are dead, so dead you have countless domestic level opposition posing at world level and becoming belt holders and passing them about. Straps in the lower weights no longer mean anything, they'll be giving them as participation trophies next.
Beterbiev & Canelo, either >his entire resume. Zurdo is also a better win, by far. He has literally 3 wins that are way better than anything Inoue has, his best win (Inoues) is about on par with an old Pascal.

Upon further thinking I'd actually retract putting Inoue ahead of Crawford, his resume isn't there, even less so than Buds.
Like genuinely even past it Brook, Porter etc are flat out better than Doheny, Butler, Tapales, Dipaen and the rest like much better.

I know you'll post all these names with rankings and stuff but someone has to be rated in these ghost town divisions, the reality is Inoue has like 2-3 solid wins and a whole lot of fluff people want to just pretend are something to write home about. He has no real stand out win.
Fans can say Donaire but he was done years and years prior and even when fresher was comfortably getting handled by the likes of Frampton, Magdaleno, etc who received zero credit. Forward on maybe 5 years? Fans want to act like its a great win for Inoue.

Finally somebody with common sense.

Bivol with wins over Canelo, Ramirez and Beterbuev is n.2 at worst.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Apart from Floyd Mayweather Junior 'All of those active fighters, don't really have the character to proclaim themselves as the best pound for pound fighters in the World. Only Floyd Mayweather Junior and possibly Terrence Crawford in my opinion, are certain and audacious enough to claim that they are the best pound for pound fighters in the World'.

Okeksandr Uysk, Dmitry Bivol and Artur Beterbiev 'Are innately more reversed characters. You could easily anticipate what those type of fighters responses would be, when asked any questions about comparing themselves to current active and past great fighters'.

Note: I personally rate Oleksandr Uysk as the pound for pound best fighter in the world 'And he has achieved this rating, due to his two wins over Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. Which I regard as the greatest pound for pound wins in the sport of the past 15 years. Oleksandr Uysk is also the most accomplished active fighter in the sport, he has achieved the pinnacle at all levels of the sport. Olympic Champion, and two times Undisputed Champion in the Cruiserweight and Heavyweight Division's'.

Skill for skill there is definitively a debate, that Terrence Crawford has the potential to be the best pound for pound fighter in the world 'But quite simply his resume, does not have the feats of achievement, or high level wins to unequivocally prove that he is the best fighter in the World. Terrence Crawford only really has one great win on his entire resume, and that is against Errol Spence Junior. Outside of that win? Crawford has fought many regular contenders, or fighters in the latter parts of their career like Shawn Porter or Kelly Brook'.

Note: Joe Calzaghe has a superior resume, and greater individual wins than Terrence Crawford 'And many people within the boxing community, attempt to mock Calzaghe's resume. Joe Calzaghe beat 10 Former World Champions during his career. Wins against Chris Eubank Senior, and Mikkel Kessler are better individual wins than any victory on Terrence Crawford's resume'.

To conclude: Overall skill for skill in terms of pure technique and game 'Terrence Crawford has had the potential to be the best pound for pound fighter in the World. But he has not achieved the feats to unequivocally prove his game to a very high level. Oleksandr Uysk has fought at a higher level, and beaten better fighters than Terrence Crawford on his resume' etc.

[dan_cov]

No, you just dont know much of the lighter divisions.

Narvaez, Fulton, Nery, Donaire, Rodriguez, Tapales are his key wins
Donaire only lost when he fought 2 wgt classes heavier guys. He was dominant at 118. Monster was also fighting these guys while moving up, and demolished everyone.

If you want to talk about so called shot fighters, what about Spence?
Brook is the definition of a shot fighter.
Porter was on the brink of retirement. Please, when has TC ever fought a top guy in his prime? maybe Madrimov. But he barely squeaked by…

Ok fair but with the greatest of respect genuinely I could almost guarantee you couldn't even name me two fighters that Narvaez has beaten without looking it up.
He was literally 40 when Inoue beat him. Narvaez was just a weak belt holder who has an extremely padded record filled with nobodies. He spent virtually all his career hiding out in Argentina making defences of a paper title against God only knows who.

118 was so dead it allowed a totally shot, nearly 40 yr old Donaire to have a little success against a bunch of cans. He was approaching 40, not his best weight and he beat nobody there of any note unless we're pretending Ouabali, Ryan Burnett are anything more they was. There are way too many titles being passed around like nobodies business in these lower weights.

I think Inoue is an excellent little fighter but these divisions are dead (not his fault) and we're being forced to buy into false narratives like these opponents are so great when really we need to be honest like we was when say Wladimir Klitschko went on his bum of the month tour and just enjoy it and hope some competition establishes itself from somewhere rather than creating false narratives that not so good fighters are a whole heap better than they are or are world beaters.
It pains me to say it the sport is in a terrible place. Sorry for the essay but we had this also with Golovkin and fans acting like Willie Monroe was some super slick, skilled boxer and Curtis Stevens and the likes was great opponents like come on now, its madness.

Donaire, Nery, Fulton are his best wins for me and none are great.


I wholeheartedly agree that most of Buds opposition was well past it or not very good to begin with, I've been saying this for years and called a hater and all sorts. All his wins have aged like milk. I think its a shame because Bud has actually wasted his career as far as I am concerned by being an opportunist cherrypicker when there has been plenty of legit competition available. He could easily have fought Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Boots, Stanionis, Vergil Ortiz and countless others. Maybe he could have beat them also but he just made a career out of biding his time and waiting for a weak link to appear and took the path of least resistance.

[TheProudLunatic]

A person can say all they want but do the facts support it

Ans - Nope

[JeBron Lamez]

Inoue is way too small to say he's the best p4p

There is no such thing as being too small to be #1 p4p.

Pound for pound means: Who's the best if you broke every fighter in all the weight classes down into 1lb pieces & then matched an equal number of those 1lb pieces against each other.