TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[IceTrayDaGang]

lol @ 750 ml being such a light dose. why need it in the first place.

[Roadblock]

lol @ 750 ml being such a light dose. why need it in the first place.

Dehydration go and do some research its very common in elite athletes, Oscar used IV fluids against Manny, it used to be a very comon process with fighters drying out to make weight and then giving IV fluids to rehydrate, Ive had it happen with greyhounds a lot on traveling to a racetrack.

I suggest you research some of your beliefs because you believe things that fit your agenda without questioning the facts that are known.

Here you go. Intravenous Fluid Use in Athletes

[hugh grant]

If you guys weren’t upset, this thread wouldn’t be this long and you wouldn’t have responded to my post.

It’s hard for you to accept a lot of people think Manny cheated.

When you do things that humans aren't supposed to do sure you might attract some people who are skeptical. I'm sure some think Florence Griffith Joyner was on peds too, but she's still record holder and probably considered greatest sprinter ever

[IronDanHamza]

Not if your tested before and after with negative.
Can you furnish proof that 750ml in a 150-pound person can mask something? Ive searched a lot for actual hard documented proof and I cant find anything, as Ive said many times in here Ive given 70lb greyhound 2000ml for dehydration, 750 ml is such a light dose, I believe Armstrong was using way over 2000 ml. Recently I was up the hospital and they said I was mildly dehydrated they gave me a bag 1000ml.

Just to add I ran it through AI just to see what it would come back with.

I understand you're asking about whether 750ml of saline IV fluids could mask performance-enhancing drug (PED) use in a 150lb male. While I can provide some general information about this topic, I should first emphasize that I'm not a medical professional, and questions about drug testing would be best directed to a healthcare provider or anti-doping specialist.

From a general scientific perspective, IV saline is sometimes used in attempts to dilute urine and blood to reduce the concentration of prohibited substances. However, several factors affect whether this approach could effectively "mask" PEDs:

1. Many modern drug tests don't just look for the drug itself but also for metabolites and biological markers that indicate tampering.
2. 750ml is a relatively low volume of fluid compared to total body water (a 150lb person has roughly 42 liters of total body water).
3. Anti-doping agencies often test for abnormal hydration levels through specific gravity and other biomarkers.
4. The effectiveness would vary greatly depending on:
   • The specific PED in question
   • How long before testing the saline was administered
   • The testing methods being used
   • Individual metabolism factors

As little as 100ml can mask PED use. 750 ml absolutely can.

Anything above 100ml is banned by WADA for a reason, and that's literally the reason.

We also don't know when Floyd was tested during the time he was using the IV, or how long he was using the IV for.

[IronDanHamza]

Dehydration go and do some research its very common in elite athletes, Oscar used IV fluids against Manny, it used to be a very comon process with fighters drying out to make weight and then giving IV fluids to rehydrate, Ive had it happen with greyhounds a lot on traveling to a racetrack.

I suggest you research some of your beliefs because you believe things that fit your agenda without questioning the facts that are known.

Here you go. Intravenous Fluid Use in Athletes

You aren't wrong about this but I wonder why Floyd would need an IV at all when he doesn't cut weight?

That doesn't make sense to me.

[Roadblock]

When you do things that humans aren't supposed to do sure you might attract some people who are skeptical. I'm sure some think Florence Griffith Joyner was on peds too, but she's still record holder and probably considered greatest sprinter ever

The reason Manny is so suspect is because he refused to be tested, he wanted to have known cut of dates and known times when would be tested, it has nothing to do with his boxing as he was beat 8 time and knocked out, the doubt came as a shock for everyone when Manny refused full random blood testing.

[hugh grant]

The reason Manny is so suspect is because he refused to be tested, he wanted to have known cut of dates and known times when would be tested, it has nothing to do with his boxing as he was beat 8 time and knocked out, the doubt came as a shock for everyone when Manny refused full random blood testing.

Yes, you think pac is 100% guilty as he refused testing. But he's still did things others havent, so is considered one of the goats. He's not failed no tests.?
Holyfield and Rjj failed tests and they're also one of the goats too.

[Roadblock]

You aren't wrong about this but I wonder why Floyd would need an IV at all when he doesn't cut weight?

That doesn't make sense to me.

I suspect it was more about mineral balance particular potassium which is quite unstable with any form of dehydration, he may have had a dry mouth and mild headache and his medical team said he needs Fluids, the boy is a strage machine when you condition something to its limits, the way it can hold onto fluids or not take on fluids via drinking is part of the survival mechanisms. Floyd still drops weight but it's only a few pounds, with dogs this is about a pound or so; you would be 2 pounds heavy the night before say for a 65lb dog, if he was in real shape that last little bit drop is a quite unstable as they can crash and keep dropping or they can not lose it , it would be the same with humans as its all the same principles at pla.

[Roadblock]

Yes, you think pac is 100% guilty as he refused testing. But he's still did things others havent, so is considered one of the goats. He's not failed no tests.?
Holyfield and Rjj failed tests and they're also one of the goats too.

No I don't Ive never said he was a illegal Ped user, only Toradol the NBL choice of superman drug, I don't know if Manny was a Ped user, what Ive always said is that its highly suspicious that he would refuse testing in the biggest fight in history, any fighter in that position would just say sure thing youre taking it too I have nothing to hide, but Manny refused, then tried to have known dates, then the icing on the cake was forcing Rios to have the very test he refused, add all this up in a logical way and it screams suspicion of using Peds.

[IronDanHamza]

I suspect it was more about mineral balance particular potassium which is quite unstable with any form of dehydration, he may have had a dry mouth and mild headache and his medical team said he needs Fluids, the boy is a strage machine when you condition something to its limits, the way it can hold onto fluids or not take on fluids via drinking is part of the survival mechanisms. Floyd still drops weight but it's only a few pounds, with dogs this is about a pound or so; you would be 2 pounds heavy the night before say for a 65lb dog, if he was in real shape that last little bit drop is a quite unstable as they can crash and keep dropping or they can not lose it , it would be the same with humans as its all the same principles at pla.

Doesn't make sense at all.

He walks around 150lbs, weighs in at 147. There's just no logical reason for him to be having an IV of 750ml.

He's not going extended periods without water like athletes who are severely depleting themselves for a weigh in, or to get on stage, and even then an IV is not really a go-to.