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    #11
    Originally posted by pugilistdreams View Post
    He should get with Nacho Beristain or a top trainer, Manny Robles is trash and this kid should be with the best he’s special
    Nacho is 86 years old and quite out of it
    The way boxing has evolved , whether it be training and conditioning , Nacho is out of his element

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      #12
      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

      Nacho is 86 years old and quite out of it
      The way boxing has evolved , whether it be training and conditioning , Nacho is out of his element
      Nacho maybe can’t do it anymore because of his age, but boxing has in no way eveolved beyond his IQ and knowledge which is quite considerable.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

        Nacho maybe can’t do it anymore because of his age, but boxing has in no way eveolved beyond his IQ and knowledge which is quite considerable.
        Age is just one factor
        The training that fighters do now and the way they brought up as fighters is not the same it was before
        Not taking anything away from him ; his knowledge of the sport or even his ring iq but chit has changed and evolved

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          #14
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

          Age is just one factor
          The training that fighters do now and the way they brought up as fighters is not the same it was before
          Not taking anything away from him ; his knowledge of the sport or even his ring iq but chit has changed and evolved
          Are you saying things have changed to the point that the methods he used to train world champions are no longer effective? I just don’t see it.

          If another Juan Manuel Marquez or Ricardo Lopez was let loose on the world right now they’d still be world champions.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

            Are you saying things have changed to the point that the methods he used to train world champions are no longer effective? I just don’t see it.

            If another Juan Manuel Marquez or Ricardo Lopez was let loose on the world right now they’d still be world champions.
            Kids have six packs at the early age of 10/12
            Tell me you had a friend or friends who were like that in your time
            Nutrition , training and conditioning are all different , night and day to
            Gloves , shoes even trunks have changed and gotten better in they're own ways

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              #16
              Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

              Kids have six packs at the early age of 10/12
              Tell me you had a friend or friends who were like that in your time
              Nutrition , training and conditioning are all different , night and day to
              Gloves , shoes even trunks have changed and gotten better in they're own ways
              Hell, Nacho worked with Rey Vargas who is quite pedestrian and isn’t dedicated and changed trainers…and yet Vargas is still good enough to be a present day WBC world champion-in-recess.

              Boxing hasn’t passed Nacho by at all.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                Hell, Nacho worked with Rey Vargas who is quite pedestrian and isn’t dedicated and changed trainers…and yet Vargas is still good enough to be a present day WBC world champion-in-recess.

                Boxing hasn’t passed Nacho by at all.
                Is that your opinion which is fine by me
                Rey Vargas c’mon man
                lmao
                I just don’t know what to think of you not thinking that boxing and all that comes with it has not evolved
                Even the peds have evolved but not the sport itself
                Got it

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                  Is that your opinion which is fine by me
                  Rey Vargas c’mon man
                  lmao
                  I just don’t know what to think of you not thinking that boxing and all that comes with it has not evolved
                  Even the peds have evolved but not the sport itself
                  Got it
                  Rey Vargas sucks but the fact is that he has still been good enough to be a modern day world champion thanks to Nacho’s training. Those are just the facts.
                  JLC JLC likes this.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                    Rey Vargas sucks but the fact is that he has still been good enough to be a modern day world champion thanks to Nacho’s training. Those are just the facts.
                    If you say so
                    Imo the times are a changing’ and I can see a boxer having him as a second chief, not questioning his knowledge or iq

                    And by the way he doesn’t train Vargas anymore
                    Vargas dropped him

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                      If you say so
                      Imo the times are a changing’ and I can see a boxer having him as a second chief, not questioning his knowledge or iq

                      And by the way he doesn’t train Vargas anymore
                      Vargas dropped him
                      Right. Vargas didn’t like needing to have discipline so he changed trainers.

                      But the fact that remains that a Nacho-trained fighter is good enough to be a current day world champion. Which invalidates your point that boxing has passed Nacho by.

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