Comments Thread For: Zhilei Zhang calls himself an 'executor' ahead of Agit Kabayel fight

[shenmue]

Zhang stoppage is what I'm picking but i like both guys so may the best man win.

[Robertthebruce]

I got Kabayel by UD. For both fighters, some of their best wins and performances haven't aged the best (Makhmudov, Joyce, Hrgovic,).

We know what Zhang is and isn't. I look forward to learning more about Kabayel's ceiling.

As for the fight, I see Agit boxing well enough to avoid the power of Zhang while investing in the body. When Zhang inevitably fades, Kabayel will take over the second half en route to w clear decision or even possibly a late TKO.

What a dumb thing to say, wanting someone to win just because you like their style even if they don't deserve it.
May the best man win fairly and Kabayel should do what Parker did and avoid the big punch and tire the old git out.

[SkinG209]

Zhang is a bad dude, but at this point I wanna see him mix it up with King Kong Ortiz! Both dudes are too old to have any future in the heavyweight division but would most definitely put on a helluva fight!

[Roberto Vasquez]

I'm su****ious of Zhang - 41 years old and doing better than guys 5 years younger than him. He's huge too, not like he's some small guy who doesn't put strain on his body

He is a smart boxer though and has that huge power.

[PRINCEKOOL]

In the latter part of this predominantly Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua 'Heavyweight era, I see a lot of Heavyweight fighters who have been mere contenders for many years NOW suddenly being completely overrated'.

What people don't realize is that fighters like Joseph Parker, Zhilei Zhang and even Agit Kabayel 'Were all a part of the Fury, Wilder and Joshua era. And for 90% of that era they have been contenders, zero threat to the top level fighters. Out of those three fighters, I would acknowledge that? Joseph Parker was a mild amber level threat to the truly elite level fighters, but when Parker got his chance to defend his WBO World title vs Anthony Joshua. He was beaten quite easily, in a fight were Joshua seemed not to get out of 2nd gear, and Parker himself was extremely hesitant to engage offensively. That is the reality of Joseph Parker's career at true elite level'.

I would not regard Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker, Martin Bakoli, Agit Kabayel as elite level heavyweight fighters 'In my opinion, there is only one currently active elite level fighter unequivocally. And that fighter is Oleksandr Uysk'.

Fighters such as Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'In my opinion, still have the ability to increase the levels of their game. Way beyond the level that the current group of contenders such as Parker, Bakoli, Kabayel and even Dubois can approach upon the evidence they have shown in their best fights. At their best skill for skill, nobody here can claim, that Parker, Bakoli, Kabayael and Dubois have produced individual performances on par with the best performances of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and even Deontay Wilder'.

Deontay Wilder in his three fights vs Tyson Fury 'In order to compete with Fury, he would have had to increase his game to a level. That most of the current Heavyweight contenders, have never approach ether in training or during fight night'. Deontay Wilder arguable should of been given the win, in his first fight vs Tyson Fury I. Tyson Fury without a shadow of doubt, should not of been given the win. At no point in Heavyweight boxing history, has a contender away from home within the Champions terrain? Won a World title by being backed up all night, decked twice once badly. Overall it was the correct decision to score the fight a draw'.

Note: Heavyweight contenders such as Parker, Zhang, Kabayel and more 'Are only really just now, showing up on the radar as a threat. And this is due to in my opinion, there being a void or a vast space on the heavyweight battle field. Where for many years the three Heavyweight Mountains in combination, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua effectively they cleared out the entire Heavyweight Division'.

Oleksandr Uysk when invaded the Heavyweight Division, really only had to beat two fighters 'To be regarded as the number 1 Heavyweight fighter in the Division. And those fighters were the two premier Heavyweight Champions. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

Just reflect back upon this Heavyweight era, and understand? Joseph Parker was already beaten as undefeated fighter by Anthony Joshua in 2018. And since then Parker has also been smashed up by Joe Joyce, in a great fight were Parker did produce a courageous and solid effort. But ultimately the conclusion to the fight was that he was smashed up. I also want to add? That Joseph Parker has never avenge a loss in his career ever'.

Zhilei Zhang is the next fighter, who people are currently pining over 'Anthony Joshua decked and beat Zhilei Zhang in the 2012 Olympics'. Zhang entered into the professional ranks in 2014, and he has only just quite recently appeared on the radar at World level. Zhang has been beaten by Filip Hrgovic and in his last fight against Joseph Parker'.

And then there is Martin Bakoli whose best win is against domestic level American Heavyweight fighter 'Apart from those performances, Bakoli's greatest feats of achievement in the sport, seem to be collection of sparring sessions against other top level Heavyweight fighters'.

To conclude: The main point that I am making here, is that? I think many people within the boxing community and media are overrating all of those contenders 'Especially the Heavyweight fighters, that were competing during the Heavyweight title reigns of Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua'.

I still think both Tyson Fury if he comes out of his apparent retirement and Anthony Joshua, have the reserves in their game to potentially beat all of those fighters etc.

[pollywog]

^^^More horse**** than anyone would know what to do with!!!

[daggum]

In the latter part of this predominantly Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua 'Heavyweight era, I see a lot of Heavyweight fighters who have been mere contenders for many years NOW suddenly being completely overrated'.

What people don't realize is that fighters like Joseph Parker, Zhilei Zhang and even Agit Kabayel 'Were all a part of the Fury, Wilder and Joshua era. And for 90% of that era they have been contenders, zero threat to the top level fighters. Out of those three fighters, I would acknowledge that? Joseph Parker was a mild amber level threat to the truly elite level fighters, but when Parker got his chance to defend his WBO World title vs Anthony Joshua. He was beaten quite easily, in a fight were Joshua seemed not to get out of 2nd gear, and Parker himself was extremely hesitant to engage offensively. That is the reality of Joseph Parker's career at true elite level'.

I would not regard Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker, Martin Bakoli, Agit Kabayel as elite level heavyweight fighters 'In my opinion, there is only one currently active elite level fighter unequivocally. And that fighter is Oleksandr Uysk'.

Fighters such as Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'In my opinion, still have the ability to increase the levels of their game. Way beyond the level that the current group of contenders such as Parker, Bakoli, Kabayel and even Dubois can approach upon the evidence they have shown in their best fights. At their best skill for skill, nobody here can claim, that Parker, Bakoli, Kabayael and Dubois have produced individual performances on par with the best performances of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and even Deontay Wilder'.

Deontay Wilder in his three fights vs Tyson Fury 'In order to compete with Fury, he would have had to increase his game to a level. That most of the current Heavyweight contenders, have never approach ether in training or during fight night'. Deontay Wilder arguable should of been given the win, in his first fight vs Tyson Fury I. Tyson Fury without a shadow of doubt, should not of been given the win. At no point in Heavyweight boxing history, has a contender away from home within the Champions terrain? Won a World title by being backed up all night, decked twice once badly. Overall it was the correct decision to score the fight a draw'.

Note: Heavyweight contenders such as Parker, Zhang, Kabayel and more 'Are only really just now, showing up on the radar as a threat. And this is due to in my opinion, there being a void or a vast space on the heavyweight battle field. Where for many years the three Heavyweight Mountains in combination, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua effectively they cleared out the entire Heavyweight Division'.

Oleksandr Uysk when invaded the Heavyweight Division, really only had to beat two fighters 'To be regarded as the number 1 Heavyweight fighter in the Division. And those fighters were the two premier Heavyweight Champions. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

Just reflect back upon this Heavyweight era, and understand? Joseph Parker was already beaten as undefeated fighter by Anthony Joshua in 2018. And since then Parker has also been smashed up by Joe Joyce, in a great fight were Parker did produce a courageous and solid effort. But ultimately the conclusion to the fight was that he was smashed up. I also want to add? That Joseph Parker has never avenge a loss in his career ever'.

Zhilei Zhang is the next fighter, who people are currently pining over 'Anthony Joshua decked and beat Zhilei Zhang in the 2012 Olympics'. Zhang entered into the professional ranks in 2014, and he has only just quite recently appeared on the radar at World level. Zhang has been beaten by Filip Hrgovic and in his last fight against Joseph Parker'.

And then there is Martin Bakoli whose best win is against domestic level American Heavyweight fighter 'Apart from those performances, Bakoli's greatest feats of achievement in the sport, seem to be collection of sparring sessions against other top level Heavyweight fighters'.

To conclude: The main point that I am making here, is that? I think many people within the boxing community and media are overrating all of those contenders 'Especially the Heavyweight fighters, that were competing during the Heavyweight title reigns of Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua'.

I still think both Tyson Fury if he comes out of his apparent retirement and Anthony Joshua, have the reserves in their game to potentially beat all of those fighters etc.

yeah wilder was clearing the division of bums

[PBR Streetgang]

What a dumb thing to say, wanting someone to win just because you like their style even if they don't deserve it.
May the best man win fairly and Kabayel should do what Parker did and avoid the big punch and tire the old git out.

I have to be honest, I have no idea what you are referencing in regards to my comment. At no point did I say I wanted either fighter to win nor did I criticize (or compliment) either fighter's style.

[NihonJim]

I'm su****ious of Zhang - 41 years old and doing better than guys 5 years younger than him. He's huge too, not like he's some small guy who doesn't put strain on his body

He is a smart boxer though and has that huge power.

There's nothing su****ious about Zhang, he's only a couple of years older than Usyk and he fights like an old man.

Zhang has very little movement, is extremely conservative with his energy and relies on intelligence with setting traps and timing counters.

He fights exactly how you'd expect an old man with a big punch to fight, there's a lot of similarities with comeback foreman except comeback foreman had more stamina than Zhang.

[NihonJim]

In the latter part of this predominantly Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua 'Heavyweight era, I see a lot of Heavyweight fighters who have been mere contenders for many years NOW suddenly being completely overrated'.

What people don't realize is that fighters like Joseph Parker, Zhilei Zhang and even Agit Kabayel 'Were all a part of the Fury, Wilder and Joshua era. And for 90% of that era they have been contenders, zero threat to the top level fighters. Out of those three fighters, I would acknowledge that? Joseph Parker was a mild amber level threat to the truly elite level fighters, but when Parker got his chance to defend his WBO World title vs Anthony Joshua. He was beaten quite easily, in a fight were Joshua seemed not to get out of 2nd gear, and Parker himself was extremely hesitant to engage offensively. That is the reality of Joseph Parker's career at true elite level'.

I would not regard Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker, Martin Bakoli, Agit Kabayel as elite level heavyweight fighters 'In my opinion, there is only one currently active elite level fighter unequivocally. And that fighter is Oleksandr Uysk'.

Fighters such as Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'In my opinion, still have the ability to increase the levels of their game. Way beyond the level that the current group of contenders such as Parker, Bakoli, Kabayel and even Dubois can approach upon the evidence they have shown in their best fights. At their best skill for skill, nobody here can claim, that Parker, Bakoli, Kabayael and Dubois have produced individual performances on par with the best performances of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and even Deontay Wilder'.

Deontay Wilder in his three fights vs Tyson Fury 'In order to compete with Fury, he would have had to increase his game to a level. That most of the current Heavyweight contenders, have never approach ether in training or during fight night'. Deontay Wilder arguable should of been given the win, in his first fight vs Tyson Fury I. Tyson Fury without a shadow of doubt, should not of been given the win. At no point in Heavyweight boxing history, has a contender away from home within the Champions terrain? Won a World title by being backed up all night, decked twice once badly. Overall it was the correct decision to score the fight a draw'.

Note: Heavyweight contenders such as Parker, Zhang, Kabayel and more 'Are only really just now, showing up on the radar as a threat. And this is due to in my opinion, there being a void or a vast space on the heavyweight battle field. Where for many years the three Heavyweight Mountains in combination, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua effectively they cleared out the entire Heavyweight Division'.

Oleksandr Uysk when invaded the Heavyweight Division, really only had to beat two fighters 'To be regarded as the number 1 Heavyweight fighter in the Division. And those fighters were the two premier Heavyweight Champions. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

Just reflect back upon this Heavyweight era, and understand? Joseph Parker was already beaten as undefeated fighter by Anthony Joshua in 2018. And since then Parker has also been smashed up by Joe Joyce, in a great fight were Parker did produce a courageous and solid effort. But ultimately the conclusion to the fight was that he was smashed up. I also want to add? That Joseph Parker has never avenge a loss in his career ever'.

Zhilei Zhang is the next fighter, who people are currently pining over 'Anthony Joshua decked and beat Zhilei Zhang in the 2012 Olympics'. Zhang entered into the professional ranks in 2014, and he has only just quite recently appeared on the radar at World level. Zhang has been beaten by Filip Hrgovic and in his last fight against Joseph Parker'.

And then there is Martin Bakoli whose best win is against domestic level American Heavyweight fighter 'Apart from those performances, Bakoli's greatest feats of achievement in the sport, seem to be collection of sparring sessions against other top level Heavyweight fighters'.

To conclude: The main point that I am making here, is that? I think many people within the boxing community and media are overrating all of those contenders 'Especially the Heavyweight fighters, that were competing during the Heavyweight title reigns of Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua'.

I still think both Tyson Fury if he comes out of his apparent retirement and Anthony Joshua, have the reserves in their game to potentially beat all of those fighters etc.

I don't always agree with you but you are spot on here.

It's ridiculous to me that Wilder/Fury/AJ get no respect for their achievements yet fans get ridiculously over excited about prospects of a similar age who have achieved nothing.

They were hyping up Makhmudov not long ago because he had a scary face and eastern euro name, that was literally all the hype was based on.

That's boxing for you though, I've seen it time and time again, once Fury/Wilder/AJ have all retired for a few years and it's clear they aren't coming back they will begin to get due respect from fans.