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    #51
    HisExcellency red flag for a fighter who needs to wait out a 40 year old opponent

    After Bivol 2 Artur has max 3 fights left

    David Morrell hasn’t exactly shown himself to be a killer at light heavy

    why would David B need to take an easy one after Morrell instead of going directly to the winner Bivol-Artur 2

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      #52
      Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post
      Mick protected Rocky for years after the second Apollo fight. Look what happened when Rock took on Mr. T. There is an argument to be made that Mick having a heart attack right before the bout caused the beating Rock took.

      As much as we all want to see fighters take on the best every fight, combat sport is it's own animal. Aging basketball stars or tennis players or chessmasters.....etc etc....may lose a step and get demolished. But they aren't chancing permanent brain injury and death.

      Benavidez is just really wrong for Biev. Biev is not just a face first brawler. He is highly underrated defensive fighter with really good feet and he has insane power. Benavidez would get pummeled and possibly severly injured. Unless Biev ages out fast. Which could happen.

      I honestly don't blame Canelo for cherry picking since his skills have eroded. He just shouldn't squat on belts. He built a caree4 on fighting not great guys or past it guys, on aging GGG out. He is a good fighter with a legendary chin, but he isn't beating guys like Biev or Benavidez. He doesn't have the power and he gasses out fast. I don't care for him, but he is smart enough to stay away from guys who would F him up.

      Mora is right. And I don't care for Mora.
      but Ben matches up well against Bivol imo

      Bivol is very conservative at close quarters

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        #53
        Bivol doesn't have fight changing power. At all.

        I give Benavidez a slight advantage over Bivol , I give Bivol a shot because he moves so well. Benavidez's power builds up via attrition and he just wears guys down. Bena also looked underwhelming beating Gzdovyk. But Gzodvyk honestly is better than Bivol IMO. He tried to actually beat Biev and paid the price, but he didn't run.

        I honestly don't see anyone beating Benavidez except for a healthy Biev. Because a healthy Biev is basically inhuman. Benavidez is a nightmare for anyon else. He takes a good shot, he is crafty in his defense and he just keeps coming. Only a guy with Biev's power and skill set beats Benavidez.
        Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; Yesterday, 02:11 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

          You do know that Beterbiev fought Usyk already in the amateurs
          Yes i do know what is your point how is a fight nearly 2 decades ago in the Amateurs relevant here, Usyk also fought Porter, just as irrelevant a comment as yours.

          This comment shows me you are one of the delusional ones entertaining the idea.

          Beterbiev has fought most his pro career at 175. There is also a whole other division between them, and no Usyk isn't ever fighting at Cruiserweight again he has been at Heavyweight for 5 years. Again, it is a another unrealistic fight because when a fighter is the best of a division, a lot of you for some reason think picking a big name that is more than 1 weight division away is some kind of competitive or realistic match up. When there are fights that can be made in their own divisions why do people think of ****** ideas, for them "weight divisions" go out of the window in their mind and just 2 big names they know is hype enough.

          Usyk can retire, or fight Dubois vs Parker winner to be 2x undisputed.

          Beterbiev can retire, or if he wins the rematch and wants 1 more fight, could fight winner of Benavidez vs Morrell.

          Crawford can fight another 154 champ, or he can fight Jermell who was undisputed in that division.

          These are the fights that make more sense.

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            #55
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
            but Ben matches up well against Bivol imo

            Bivol is very conservative at close quarters
            Bivol doesn't have fight changing power. At all.

            I think Bivol Benavidez has a slight advantage Bena, I give Bivol a shot because he moves so well. Benavidez's power builds up via attrition and he just wears guys down.

            I honestly don't see anyone beating Benavidez except for a healthy Biev. Because a healthy Biev is basically inhuman. Benavidez is a nightmare for anyon else. He takes a good shot, he is crafty in his defense and he just keeps coming. Only a guy with Biev's power and skill set beats Benavidez.​
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              #56
              That kind of mentality is why Mora had no fans and no one remembers anything of his fights.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Whiplash55 View Post
                The two most overused words in boxing. “Hater”, and “legacy.”
                Add " Great " to the list.

                The other day I saw a fight between a supposed prospect and a guy that's something like 3-12 -1 , the prospect knocks the guy out in the 2nd or 3rd round and in his interview calls him a great fighter.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post
                  Bivol doesn't have fight changing power. At all.

                  I think Bivol Benavidez has a slight advantage Bena, I give Bivol a shot because he moves so well. Benavidez's power builds up via attrition and he just wears guys down.

                  I honestly don't see anyone beating Benavidez except for a healthy Biev. Because a healthy Biev is basically inhuman. Benavidez is a nightmare for anyon else. He takes a good shot, he is crafty in his defense and he just keeps coming. Only a guy with Biev's power and skill set beats Benavidez.​
                  I wouldn’t go that far

                  Artur is a great fighter with vulnerabilities who finds a way to win

                  but he’s not a flawless Mayweather who appears unbeatable

                  Many had Bivol beating Artur in the first go

                  prime Gvozdyk had holes too. Nearly put on his ass by old Adonis
                  Last edited by SouthpawRight; Yesterday, 03:08 PM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                    Yes i do know what is your point how is a fight nearly 2 decades ago in the Amateurs relevant here, Usyk also fought Porter, just as irrelevant a comment as yours.

                    This comment shows me you are one of the delusional ones entertaining the idea.

                    Beterbiev has fought most his pro career at 175. There is also a whole other division between them, and no Usyk isn't ever fighting at Cruiserweight again he has been at Heavyweight for 5 years. Again, it is a another unrealistic fight because when a fighter is the best of a division, a lot of you for some reason think picking a big name that is more than 1 weight division away is some kind of competitive or realistic match up. When there are fights that can be made in their own divisions why do people think of ****** ideas, for them "weight divisions" go out of the window in their mind and just 2 big names they know is hype enough.

                    Usyk can retire, or fight Dubois vs Parker winner to be 2x undisputed.

                    Beterbiev can retire, or if he wins the rematch and wants 1 more fight, could fight winner of Benavidez vs Morrell.

                    Crawford can fight another 154 champ, or he can fight Jermell who was undisputed in that division.

                    These are the fights that make more sense.
                    Usyk’s is the one who said he’s like to come back down to cruiser weight
                    Your just as delusional to think there is no fughin possibility of it happening
                    LmFao

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                      I wouldn’t go that far

                      Artur is a great fighter with vulnerabilities who finds a way to win

                      but he’s not a flawless Mayweather who appears unbeatable

                      Many had Bivol beating Artur in the first go

                      prime Gvozdyk had holes too. Nearly put on his ass by old Adonis
                      Artur has never lost. Getting knocked down and getting up and stopping the opponent is a sign of his mental strength and an attribute. He also he wasn't hurt, it was a flash knockdown. His "finds a way to win" is stopping the other guy.

                      Bivol ran and survived for most of the fight against Biev. He didn't win.

                      Mayweather almost got beat by Maidana in their first fight, could have been a draw. And Mosely hurt Floyd. And Castillo-Floyd was also questionable.

                      Gvozdyk ended Adonis's career.

                      No fighter is unbeatable. Including Biev. You seem to think that a great fighter never gets hit and outpoints the other guy. Makes for boring fights.

                      Age will eventually beat Biev.




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